You Know What Really Grinds My Gears....The Sequel!

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

Fine lets play this game. Would you go to the Keg and let them charge you 300 to cook a steak you provided?

Would you let your mechanic bill out his labour at 900 dollars an hour?

Labour is labour. I'm providing the materials, they're trying to chisel me out of 300 bucks.

Yeah I ran into a similar problem with my iPhone 4s. Ended up ordering the materials and fixing it myself - I am hardly "handy" but followed the instructions. Maybe give it a try yourself.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

People improperly changing lanes GMG. Just because your signal light is on, does not mean I have to slow down and let you into my lane. For this situation I am referring to a dual lane, where I am in the right lane and the person in the left lane wants to get in my lane, for whatever reason. I am going the flow of traffic, and have left a safe amount of distance between the my bumper and the car in front of me.

You can only drive over a broken line to go from one lane to the other if you can do so safely. The onus is on the driver of the lane-changing vehicle to yield to the other vehicle and wait for a gap in order to change lanes safely. You can honk all you want, but I'm not slowing down so you can drive in front of me. You can try angling your car into my lane, especially if we are waiting at a red light, but you being in the wrong lane isn't my problem. You can get behind me if that guy will let you in, but he's under no obligation to do that either. You change lanes when it is safe, and you aren't impeding other drivers.

Sorry, but from how you describe this it sounds like you are the one in the wrong here. If everybody drove with a little courtesy the roads would flow that much safer. So instead of slowing down by 2 km/h for a few seconds you are making somebody have to force his way in. Then take the person behind you; why should they be the one to let him in instead of you? Why is their time worth less than yours, and how does it make the roads safer for the lane changer to have to slow down his lane that much more to get behind you?

All you are doing is adding to the overall congestion of the roads, as the trickle down effect is one lane going slower, which causes more lane changes further back as people try to get out of the now "slower" lane.

It also adds to the "I need one particular lane the nanosecond it's available; even though I am not turning for 5 km" style of driving; as drivers do that because they are afraid they may encounter a road warrior who won't let them in further down.

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Sorry, but from how you describe this it sounds like you are the one in the wrong here. If everybody drove with a little courtesy the roads would flow that much safer. So instead of slowing down by 2 km/h for a few seconds you are making somebody have to force his way in. Then take the person behind you; why should they be the one to let him in instead of you? Why is their time worth less than yours, and how does it make the roads safer for the lane changer to have to slow down his lane that much more to get behind you?

All you are doing is adding to the overall congestion of the roads, as the trickle down effect is one lane going slower, which causes more lane changes further back as people try to get out of the now "slower" lane.

It also adds to the "I need one particular lane the nanosecond it's available; even though I am not turning for 5 km" style of driving; as drivers do that because they are afraid they may encounter a road warrior who won't let them in further down.

Also sort of on this topic I have noticed that when coming down an on ramp instead of people in the right lane slowing down to let you in or moving over they tend to speed up to either get in front of you or in some cases drive beside you.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Sorry, but from how you describe this it sounds like you are the one in the wrong here. If everybody drove with a little courtesy the roads would flow that much safer. So instead of slowing down by 2 km/h for a few seconds you are making somebody have to force his way in. Then take the person behind you; why should they be the one to let him in instead of you? Why is their time worth less than yours, and how does it make the roads safer for the lane changer to have to slow down his lane that much more to get behind you?

All you are doing is adding to the overall congestion of the roads, as the trickle down effect is one lane going slower, which causes more lane changes further back as people try to get out of the now "slower" lane.

It also adds to the "I need one particular lane the nanosecond it's available; even though I am not turning for 5 km" style of driving; as drivers do that because they are afraid they may encounter a road warrior who won't let them in further down.

The onus is on the driver who wants to switch lanes to make the adjustment, not everyone else. This isn't a merge, where all parties have be aware. You should treat switching lanes like a yield sign. Many times I have seen people stop, or slow, their cars to let people in who have yields. They think they are being courteous, but really they aren't following the law. I can't find a link to Alberta, but here is Ontario's link: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dan...ion2.7.1.shtml

Never make sudden lane changes by cutting in front of another vehicle, including bicycles. Other drivers expect you to stay in the lane you are already in. Even if you signal, they expect you to yield the right-of-way.

I'm not making anyone force their way in. By them veering over and wanting into the lane, which I have a right to, they are stating that their time is worth more than my time. When I'm at a movie theatre I don't see an opening and switch lines, making everyone else wait. I wait my turn. If an elevator door is closing I don't stick my hand in it so the entire elevator has to wait for me. I wait for the next one. If I'm in the left lane and the car in front of me signals to make a left turn, and there is heavy traffic coming towards us, I don't just cut over so I don't have to wait 1 minute. If it's safe, I'll change lanes, but it is not anyone else's problem that I have to wait in that scenario. If it was that important to me that I got there one minute earlier, I'd have left earlier. Being late, impatient, and/or a speed demon is not anyone else's problem.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Superflyer

Also sort of on this topic I have noticed that when coming down an on ramp instead of people in the right lane slowing down to let you in or moving over they tend to speed up to either get in front of you or in some cases drive beside you.

The onus is on the person on the ramp to "merge". Happened to me this morning. I was doing the speed limit (a little under actually) and the guy coming down the ramp refused to slow down or speed up and basically paced me and got pissed off when I didn't slow down or move over to let him in. He needs to adjust to my speed and merge accordingly. If he would have sped up he easily could have merged in front of me or if he slowed down, he could merge behind me. Don't pace me though and expect me to do your merging for you.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Igster

The onus is on the person on the ramp to "merge". Happened to me this morning. I was doing the speed limit (a little under actually) and the guy coming down the ramp refused to slow down or speed up and basically paced me and got pissed off when I didn't slow down or move over to let him in. He needs to adjust to my speed and merge accordingly. If he would have sped up he easily could have merged in front of me or if he slowed down, he could merge behind me. Don't pace me though and expect me to do your merging for you.

If you have room in the lane beside you you shouldn't be in the right hand lane if there is a merge.

Also does someone have a link to the official rules on merging because if you go just by right of way the mergie would have the right of way over the flowing traffic unless something specifically modifies it. I had thought that it was an equal fault situation on merges and different from lane changes.

Either way for good traffic flow the onus is on all drivers to adjust there speed to allow merging. Generally the merging traffic should slow down slightly and the through traffic should accelerate slightly to accomplish this task. You should have accelerated to the speed limt to facilitate his merging behind you or moved over.

[taco.vidal]

The AB highway traffic act says that the person driving on the road being merged onto has to take reasonable precautions to allow the merging vehicle to merge safely.

I often see people pacing the merging car and not letting them get in safeley. Sure there are people who dont know what theyre doing when they are merging but just as many dont know how to let someone merge. If ou let them zipper in, traffic moves faster overall.

Too many people believe they own their lane space and are determined not to let anyone get ahead of them.

Originally Posted by Igster

The onus is on the person on the ramp to "merge". Happened to me this morning. I was doing the speed limit (a little under actually) and the guy coming down the ramp refused to slow down or speed up and basically paced me and got pissed off when I didn't slow down or move over to let him in. He needs to adjust to my speed and merge accordingly. If he would have sped up he easily could have merged in front of me or if he slowed down, he could merge behind me. Don't pace me though and expect me to do your merging for you.

[Igster]

Point being guys, if the driver merging used his head a little, it would have been a pretty easy situation. I didn't need to do anything for him to merge safely and I couldn't get in the other lane anyway as there was a car right beside me. If he had sped up a bit I would have easily let off the gas to let him in. I'm not going to stop pretty much to let him merge.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by GGG

You should have accelerated to the speed limt to facilitate his merging behind you or moved over.

I was about 2 khm under the speed limit. Speeding up wouldn't have helped the situation unless I really sped up.

I still say the onus should be on the person merging and not me on the road driving along. If he gets caught with no lane left, then I'll take precautions to help him, but he easily could have merged using his head.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

The onus is on the driver who wants to switch lanes to make the adjustment, not everyone else. This isn't a merge, where all parties have be aware. You should treat switching lanes like a yield sign.

If someone didn't plan ahead and is trying to change lanes 50m before their turn, they are at fault. If someone is trying to squeeze in front of you in rush hour traffic over a painted island, they are at fault.

The driver changing lanes has a responsibility to do so safely. But they don't have to yield to you. If that was the case, no one would ever be able to change lanes, and would have to completely stop and wait until every single car in the other lane had passed.

As long as conditions are safe for them, the onus is on YOU to let them change lanes, not the other way around. You can't explicitly block a vehicle from overtaking or changing lanes ahead of you. If they're being an ass and jumping in front of you, then they're making an unsafe lane change and would be pulled over if a cop was behind you. But sharing the road is everyone's responsibility.

From the AB Traffic Safety Act: http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_304.pdf

21(2) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, a
person driving a vehicle that is being overtaken by another vehicle
(a) shall give way to the right in favour of the overtaking
vehicle, and
(b) shall not increase the speed of the overtaken vehicle until
the overtaken vehicle is completely passed by the
overtaking vehicle.

Originally Posted by Igster

Point being guys, if the driver merging used his head a little, it would have been a pretty easy situation. I didn't need to do anything for him to merge safely and I couldn't get in the other lane anyway as there was a car right beside me. If he had sped up a bit I would have easily let off the gas to let him in. I'm not going to stop pretty much to let him merge.

No, of course you shouldn't stop. You're supposed to take all reasonable precautions to let him in, though. He has a responsibility to merge safely, and you have a responsibility to do everything that you can to let him merge safely.

In practical terms, should he have used his head? Yes. Should he have adjusted his speed to merge safely? Absolutely. The TSA is just a piece of paper. From a legal standpoint, he's technically not allowed to exceed the speed limit. But if he goes 110 or 120 briefly in a 100 zone to complete his merge ahead of you safely, no cop is going to pull him over for that.

But at the same time, you had some responsibility in that situation. If he's coming down the merge lane and ends up behind you, you have nothing to worry about. Ahead of you, you should be slowing up a tad to let him in. If he ends up right next to you, the onus is technically on him to speed up or slow down to merge safely.

But all you really had to do was either speed up or slow down to make some room. If I see someone coming down a ramp and it looks like they'll end up right next to me, I'll speed up if I can, or slow down to make room for them. It's just defensive driving.

In that situation, did you have to do that? No. But does it take much effort to speed up to 105 or 110 (or even slow down) and create a gap when you're at 98 in a 100 zone? You tell me.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

In that situation, did you have to do that? No. But does it take much effort to speed up to 105 or 110 (or even slow down) and create a gap when you're at 98 in a 100 zone? You tell me.

I did lay off the gas a little (hence the lower speed) and he slowed down as well. He basically didn't know how to merge and was clearly a struggler. There really wasn't any time for me to step on it or come to a complete stop so he caused the issue. Merging is not rocket science, although it appears to be for some drivers. I'm not going to get in his car and merge for him.

[Stealth22]

Originally Posted by Igster

I did lay off the gas a little (hence the lower speed) and he slowed down as well. He basically didn't know how to merge and was clearly a struggler. There really wasn't any time for me to step on it or come to a complete stop so he caused the issue. Merging is not rocket science, although it appears to be for some drivers. I'm not going to get in his car and merge for him.

Ah ok, makes sense. My guess, he probably slowed down to go behind you, not knowing you were going to lay off the gas. He just didn't know what to do when faced with that situation.

[troutman]

These people appeared in my office yesterday! Good Times!



Aggressive Donation Soliciting

We are seeking public assistance to locate five people believed to be soliciting money for a fraudulent charity in the city’s northwest.

Over the last few weeks, residents in the neighbourhoods of Tuscany and Valley Ridge have reported several incidents involving five people coming to their doors aggressively soliciting donations for “Children’s Joy Foundation.”

In some of the reported incidents, an adult man and two adult women were seen with two youth, a boy and girl, who were playing a guitar and a violin. All are described as being of Asian descent.

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- Request the organization’s charitable number.
- Request the option of a tax receipt, prior to providing a donation.
- Representatives of the organization should be wearing visible ID.
- Request contact information for the organization including phone number and address.

Anyone with information is asked to call us at 403-266-1234 or Crime Stoppers anonymously using any of the following methods:

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Stealth22

If someone didn't plan ahead and is trying to change lanes 50m before their turn, they are at fault. If someone is trying to squeeze in front of you in rush hour traffic over a painted island, they are at fault.

The driver changing lanes has a responsibility to do so safely. But they don't have to yield to you. If that was the case, no one would ever be able to change lanes, and would have to completely stop and wait until every single car in the other lane had passed.

As long as conditions are safe for them, the onus is on YOU to let them change lanes, not the other way around. You can't explicitly block a vehicle from overtaking or changing lanes ahead of you. If they're being an ass and jumping in front of you, then they're making an unsafe lane change and would be pulled over if a cop was behind you. But sharing the road is everyone's responsibility.

From the AB Traffic Safety Act: http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2002_304.pdf

I disagree. You conveniently left out the beginning of that section. It included it needed to be at a safe distance, but was a different scenario. What you've quoted is for when someone comes up behind you, moves to the left lane, passes you, and then moves back into your lane. If I am the slower vehicle on a two lane road, and a driver wants to pass me, I absolutely won't speed up. If I see another car coming in our direction, I'll slow down so he can get back in safely.

My situation is when we were both driving along a road similar to Sarcee Trail. I am traveling at the same speed as the car in front of me, with a reasonable gap. There is another lane on our left, going the same direction as us (picture a one way road with multiple lanes if it helps), and a car wanted in my lane. He was trying to beat the flow of traffic, and didn't want to have to wait for a car to turn left. There are almost always cars at this intersection turning left. At one point we were at a red light, and he jammed his nose right in front of my car. Even in your section 21, the other vehicle shall at a safe distance pass me on the left. There is no safe distance if you can't fit your car between two cars. In 21(1)(b) it says not return to the right side of the road until safely clear of the overtaken vehicle. If he only has his front bumped past me, he is not safely clear.

If you go down to Section 23, just below where you quoted, it says a person driving a vehicle shall not drive the vehicle so as to overtake and pass or attempt to overtake or to pass another vehicle (c) when the act of overtaking and passing cannot be made safely. If my car is where he wants to go, then it is not safe to drive your car there.

The correct section to quote would have been 15(2)
Before driving a vehicle from one traffic lane into another or
from a curb lane or a parking lane into a traffic lane, a person
driving a vehicle shall
(a) signal that person’s intention to do so in a manner as
provided for in Division 3, and
(b) give the signal in sufficient time to provide a reasonable
warning to other persons of that person’s intentions
From Section 15
(4)
Notwithstanding anything in this section, when the movement
cannot be made in safety, a person driving a vehicle shall not do
the following:
(a) drive the vehicle from one traffic lane to another

At not one point is it on me to make life easy for one guy trying to switch lanes because he tried getting ahead and got caught. All the people who are already in the right lane shouldn't have to wait for him to make an unsafe move. By my car being there, it isn't safe. It wasn't rush hour, but it was busy out, with many cars. Even if he had switched lanes, and then gone back to the left lane, he likely didn't save himself any time. We were going to have to wait for future intersections to clear.

[Stealth22]

That's why I said provided that the lane change is safe to make. I didn't realize that you were stopped at a red light. But with a normal, safe lane change in the flow of traffic, you have to let them in.

[vegasbound]

GMG when my day goes from crappy to horrible to downright sh*tty and my emotions go from "whatever" to "is this day over?" to "I'm about to lose my absolute #### on someone" to "f* this ####. I'm just going to drink it all away." The last one is a little scary because I have a test I totally forgot about (my fault, but for some reason I thought it was due tomorrow) and haven't started looking at the materials and it needs to be done by 10 pm and a midterm tomorrow morning first thing.

I should have listened to my friend because trying to juggle 3 spring semester courses, working close to full time, somewhat of a social life, working out to some degree and trying to keep my horse in shape is not possible.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by vegasbound

GMG when my day goes from crappy to horrible to downright sh*tty and my emotions go from "whatever" to "is this day over?" to "I'm about to lose my absolute #### on someone" to "f* this ####. I'm just going to drink it all away." The last one is a little scary because I have a test I totally forgot about (my fault, but for some reason I thought it was due tomorrow) and haven't started looking at the materials and it needs to be done by 10 pm and a midterm tomorrow morning first thing.

Does is happen once a month?









*runs away and ducks for cover*

[vegasbound]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Does is happen once a month?









*runs away and ducks for cover*

That honestly made me laugh. But no, unfortunately I can't use that excuse for today. My tolerance for BS and people pissing me off has been considerably short the past two weeks, and my temper is getting the best of me today.

[Huntingwhale]

Went to Safeway after work to buy some food and bore witness to a lady who single-handedly ruined a nicely arranged fridge of meat. She was searching for the perfect cut for herself and just left package after package of meat all over the place. Chicken was mixed with pork, beef with chicken, and pork with beef. What a nightmare. When she was done, the guy waiting his turn just gave her the stink eye as she walked away, leaving everyone else to sort through her mess. Boy did that GMG.

[Acey]

Such a minor thing, but the airport code invasion really bugs. Why on earth do you have to refer to Vancouver as YVR here? YYC this, YYC that. Drives me crazy.