You Know What Really Grinds My Gears....The Sequel!

[squiggs96]

People improperly changing lanes GMG. Just because your signal light is on, does not mean I have to slow down and let you into my lane. For this situation I am referring to a dual lane, where I am in the right lane and the person in the left lane wants to get in my lane, for whatever reason. I am going the flow of traffic, and have left a safe amount of distance between the my bumper and the car in front of me.

You can only drive over a broken line to go from one lane to the other if you can do so safely. The onus is on the driver of the lane-changing vehicle to yield to the other vehicle and wait for a gap in order to change lanes safely. You can honk all you want, but I'm not slowing down so you can drive in front of me. You can try angling your car into my lane, especially if we are waiting at a red light, but you being in the wrong lane isn't my problem. You can get behind me if that guy will let you in, but he's under no obligation to do that either. You change lanes when it is safe, and you aren't impeding other drivers.

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

To me it's akin to how I view maintenance on my car. I bring it in, and they fix it. I don't enjoy spending money when I'm there, but if I want my car to run properly, I do it. I don't know who to fix it, nor do I want to, and I don't own any of the tools to change oil, rotate tires, fix a headlight, change brake pads, etc. It might be over priced, but they had to buy the capital equipment, hire the labour, advertise, etc. I don't get upset when I pay for a $25 for a steak in a restaurant that would be $10 for me to make at home.

Fine lets play this game. Would you go to the Keg and let them charge you 300 to cook a steak you provided?

Would you let your mechanic bill out his labour at 900 dollars an hour?

Labour is labour. I'm providing the materials, they're trying to chisel me out of 300 bucks.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

Fine lets play this game. Would you go to the Keg and let them charge you 300 to cook a steak you provided?

Would you let your mechanic bill out his labour at 900 dollars an hour?

Labour is labour. I'm providing the materials, they're trying to chisel me out of 300 bucks.

You could just not get it fixed.

Problem solved.
That'll be $80 please.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

If it's that easy, then do it yourself.

Yah, this is my #1 gear grinder - the idea that it's "easy" always seems to come from people who have no idea how to do the job. These are usually the same people who say, "Just give me a 'yes' or 'no' answer!" when they ask a complex question.

"Complexity-challenged". Can that be a thing?

[Brannigans Law]

Originally Posted by strombad

You could just not get it fixed.

Problem solved.
That'll be $80 please.

meh I found a guy on kijiji who will replace the glass for almost that exact amount actually. I'm sure the glass itself is next to nothing but I don't mind a reasonable labour charge for his time.

Originally Posted by jammies

Yah, this is my #1 gear grinder - the idea that it's "easy" always seems to come from people who have no idea how to do the job. These are usually the same people who say, "Just give me a 'yes' or 'no' answer!" when they ask a complex question.

"Complexity-challenged". Can that be a thing?

jesus christ im upset that someone is trying to bill out their labour at 900 dollars an hour.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

jesus christ im upset that someone is trying to bill out their labour at 900 dollars an hour.

The more specialized and more afraid people are of the task, the more it costs. Simple as that.

If were going to talk about ripoffs, how about the massage lady making probably $1000/hr for a happy ending.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

jesus christ im upset that someone is trying to bill out their labour at 900 dollars an hour.

No, you're upset that the going rate for a professional shop to fix that kind of phone's screen is $300. If you want Backpage McKijiji to fix your phone, great, but since you don't know what is involved in fixing the phone, you have no idea that it actually takes 20 minutes - for all you know, it's an hour and a half, ,and just because "some" phones take 20 minutes, doesn't mean *your* phone will only take 20.

I would just watch a video on Youtube of some guy fixing his, and do it myself. Then I'd open up my own cell-phone repair shop, and - apparently - be able to retire after a couple years.

[DownhillGoat]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

If were going to talk about ripoffs, how about the massage lady making probably $1000/hr for a happy ending.

Now that's highway robbery. A 60 min massage with that kind of service should run no more than $400. But also keep in mind at least 80% of that goes to the front of the house and overhead.

But again, like in so many other things, you get what you pay for. I might have to switch to this $1000/hr service.

Originally Posted by jammies

I would just watch a video on Youtube of some guy fixing his, and do it myself.

Ha reminds me of a co-worker of mine. Decided to fix his own (it was an older model anyway so he wasn't too worried. He had a white halo that took up a third of the screen after that.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by kunkstyle

But again, like in so many other things, you get what you pay for. I might have to switch to this $1000/hr service.

I just included the cost of the "tip" and factored in the "extra" time at the end not the whole thing.

[Dion]

Just a call out to a certain Calgary driver on the Deerfoot this morning. Your weaving in and out of traffic nearly caused a few accidents. The fact that you nearly took off the front end of my vehicle probably didn't register as you were too busy yapping on your cellphone. Put the ####ing phone down and focus on your driving!

[Muta]

Posting this on behalf of a family member:

What grinds my gears is if you're a musician or a singer, people usually ask you to play something or sing something when they find out that you are. For free.

Why the hell should they sing or play for free? That's their labour of love, and they don't need to be dishing it out for free just because you think they should to entertain you.

Perhaps the person asking is willing to share their career skills for free, too? "You're a stock broker? Cool! Give me your best stock advice!"

I feel sorry for musicians sometimes.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Muta

Posting this on behalf of a family member:

What grinds my gears is if you're a musician or a singer, people usually ask you to play something or sing something when they find out that you are. For free.

Why the hell should they sing or play for free? That's their labour of love, and they don't need to be dishing it out for free just because you think they should to entertain you.

Perhaps the person asking is willing to share their career skills for free, too? "You're a stock broker? Cool! Give me your best stock advice!"

I feel sorry for musicians sometimes.

The context is tough to read in this gear grinder. Like they hear he sings/plays music and they go "cool, you're a musician, play something for us!!!"

Or like "hey, you're a musician? We have a corporate event coming up and I was supposed to go hire entertainment, but now that I found out you're a singer, you can do it for free!".

[strombad]

It sounds like this family member has seen Inside Llewyn Davis.

[spydermal]

Originally Posted by Muta

Posting this on behalf of a family member:

What grinds my gears is if you're a musician or a singer, people usually ask you to play something or sing something when they find out that you are. For free.

Why the hell should they sing or play for free? That's their labour of love, and they don't need to be dishing it out for free just because you think they should to entertain you.

Perhaps the person asking is willing to share their career skills for free, too? "You're a stock broker? Cool! Give me your best stock advice!"

I feel sorry for musicians sometimes.

Play Free bird.

[Tyler]

Sounds like you guys have been reading old Craiglist meme's

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Brannigans Law

Fine lets play this game. Would you go to the Keg and let them charge you 300 to cook a steak you provided?

Would you let your mechanic bill out his labour at 900 dollars an hour?

Labour is labour. I'm providing the materials, they're trying to chisel me out of 300 bucks.

Point still stands. Take your steak home and buy a BBQ for $300. Use it again if you want to. The same goes for my car. I would have to spend thousands of dollars on parts, machines and courses in order to learn how to do simple maintenance. I'd likely be ahead if they charged me $900.

I'm of the mindset if I can't/won't do it, then I have to pay for it, or go without. If I deem the price outrageous, I look for a cheaper option, or go without. You never said what the other prices were. Were they all $300? If so, that sounds like the going rate. If not, ignore the one that charges $300 and go with a cheaper option. Maybe it isn't worth their time for less than that. What you deem as a fair price for labour, may not be anywhere close to what everyone else deems a fair price. You said a guy on kijiji is cheaper? Shocking that a guy that doesn't have overhead, and likely doesn't pay business license or taxes would be cheaper. If they were only charging $20 for the repair, they might be so busy that they'd have to bring in multiple employees, and they'd be losing money. Then they'd have to raise their prices, which you would deem unfair.

Since the price of the part is $8, maybe they are marking it up by $21 to $29, and $300 is the labour cost. It could be a specialized technique or they have to buy a really expensive machine to do it. I don't know, what it is. I would have no idea where to start on replacing my phone screen. At that price I might just buy a new phone, which may be the point of pricing it that high.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by Muta

Posting this on behalf of a family member:

What grinds my gears is if you're a musician or a singer, people usually ask you to play something or sing something when they find out that you are. For free.

Why the hell should they sing or play for free? That's their labour of love, and they don't need to be dishing it out for free just because you think they should to entertain you.

Perhaps the person asking is willing to share their career skills for free, too? "You're a stock broker? Cool! Give me your best stock advice!"

I feel sorry for musicians sometimes.

It would depend on what Brannigans Law determined the fair value of your signing was. It might be free. The song would only take 3 minutes to sing. Why should I have to pay for that?

[GGG]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Point still stands. Take your steak home and buy a BBQ for $300. Use it again if you want to. The same goes for my car. I would have to spend thousands of dollars on parts, machines and courses in order to learn how to do simple maintenance. I'd likely be ahead if they charged me $900.

I'm of the mindset if I can't/won't do it, then I have to pay for it, or go without. If I deem the price outrageous, I look for a cheaper option, or go without. You never said what the other prices were. Were they all $300? If so, that sounds like the going rate. If not, ignore the one that charges $300 and go with a cheaper option. Maybe it isn't worth their time for less than that. What you deem as a fair price for labour, may not be anywhere close to what everyone else deems a fair price. You said a guy on kijiji is cheaper? Shocking that a guy that doesn't have overhead, and likely doesn't pay business license or taxes would be cheaper. If they were only charging $20 for the repair, they might be so busy that they'd have to bring in multiple employees, and they'd be losing money. Then they'd have to raise their prices, which you would deem unfair.

Since the price of the part is $8, maybe they are marking it up by $21 to $29, and $300 is the labour cost. It could be a specialized technique or they have to buy a really expensive machine to do it. I don't know, what it is. I would have no idea where to start on replacing my phone screen. At that price I might just buy a new phone, which may be the point of pricing it that high.

Isnt that what he is doing, finding someone else to do it. I think high pricing for things you want is a legitamate gear grinder. At some point high pricing is just taking advantage of people who lack knowledge or a scam to encourage people buying the new product over repairing. At some point complaining about the price of something is legitamate.

As for maintaining your own car with a few simple tools and some Youtube videos and you could save a lot of money on your car. No need to invest thousands. Doing your own oil changes is less time consuming and cheaper than taking it in.

I sympathize with this type of gear grinder as I was looking for someone to paint my house and the two options available were companies charging $75 to $100 dollars per hour and sketchy guys on kijiji charging $20 an hour with no references. In the end even though I hate painting I could make more painting my own house than going into work for some OT so I did it myself. I had the same reaction as the phone price that no way shoukd the charge out rate for a painter be $75 per hour when the employee doing it probably gets $25.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Muta

Posting this on behalf of a family member:

What grinds my gears is if you're a musician or a singer, people usually ask you to play something or sing something when they find out that you are. For free.

Why the hell should they sing or play for free? That's their labour of love, and they don't need to be dishing it out for free just because you think they should to entertain you.

Perhaps the person asking is willing to share their career skills for free, too? "You're a stock broker? Cool! Give me your best stock advice!"

I feel sorry for musicians sometimes.

It's how musicians sometimes get discovered. Some are willing to give you free downloads of your music to pass onto friends and family.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

It would depend on what Brannigans Law determined the fair value of your signing was. It might be free. The song would only take 3 minutes to sing. Why should I have to pay for that?

You don't have to; but then you get no song unless you do provide a free service for me in return. You want something free? So do I. Fair trade, no?