2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Vinny01]

I think my ideal offseason consists of the Flames trading Johnny to Nee Jersey for a package around the 7th overall+. I would be open to trading Monahan to Buffalo if they offered Cozens + a Dman. Move Rittich to a team looking for a tandem. In free agency with the new found cap space sign Hall and one of Markstrom/Lehner.

If the team is against moving Lindholm to C full time pursue trades for Domi or Dylan Strome to fill the top 6 C spot. This might require a Hanifin trade.

Lastly move Ward back to associate and hire a proven coach.

-New coach
- new top end goalie
- shakeup the core
- long term replacements signed/acquired
- high end futures brought in

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I suspect Gillies probably wrangles a two-year deal from some NHL team solely because he can be exposed in the expansion draft.

That team almost certainly will not be Calgary.

Are veteran goalies in short supply out there? The Avs trotted out a third stringer with NHL experience in their series.

You made a point I hadn't thought of but will teams really use up an organizational slot for a goalie who has neither NHL experience or much promise to develop.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think my ideal offseason consists of the Flames trading Johnny to Nee Jersey for a package around the 7th overall+. I would be open to trading Monahan to Buffalo if they offered Cozens + a Dman. Move Rittich to a team looking for a tandem. In free agency with the new found cap space sign Hall and one of Markstrom/Lehner.

If the team is against moving Lindholm to C full time pursue trades for Domi or Dylan Strome to fill the top 6 C spot. This might require a Hanifin trade.

Lastly move Ward back to associate and hire a proven coach.

-New coach
- new top end goalie
- shakeup the core
- long term replacements signed/acquired
- high end futures brought in

I can see the strategy and dont necesarily disagree with some parts...but like many fans you ignore sequence.

1. You can only sign Taylor Hall after the draft and he can sign wherever he wants.

So...do you trade JG for a 7th knowing that you may not field an NHL calibre top 6 next year?

I believe (much to many peoples frustration), that IF Brad trades JG for anything other than a comparable player return...it will happen after free agency and once he knows the path forward on Taylor Hall. Unfortunately, by then potential suitors may already have spent their cap. Much like last year...it would be very easy for the flames to look trade constipated (metaphorically speaking) again this year.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Are veteran goalies in short supply out there? The Avs trotted out a third stringer with NHL experience in their series.

You made a point I hadn't thought of but will teams really use up an organizational slot for a goalie who has neither NHL experience or much promise to develop.

Remember Tom McCollum?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by tkflames

I can see the strategy and dont necesarily disagree with some parts...but like many fans you ignore sequence.

1. You can only sign Taylor Hall after the draft and he can sign wherever he wants.

So...do you trade JG for a 7th knowing that you may not field an NHL calibre top 6 next year?

Yes. If you have the idea to move Gaudreau you'd do it at the draft. Even if it means the top 6 isn't as good next season.

Also a technicality but he meant the 7th overall pick not "a 7th" which are two very different things.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yes. If you have the idea to move Gaudreau you'd do it at the draft. Even if it means the top 6 isn't as good next season.

Also a technicality but he meant the 7th overall pick not "a 7th" which are two very different things.

I also think I’d rather see what Dube can add to the top 6 rather than sign Hall if it means a long, expensive contract. Of course, there a lot more options in between let Dube move into the top 6 and sign Hall (ex: trade for Anderson).

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by tkflames

I can see the strategy and dont necesarily disagree with some parts...but like many fans you ignore sequence.

1. You can only sign Taylor Hall after the draft and he can sign wherever he wants.

So...do you trade JG for a 7th knowing that you may not field an NHL calibre top 6 next year?

I believe (much to many peoples frustration), that IF Brad trades JG for anything other than a comparable player return...it will happen after free agency and once he knows the path forward on Taylor Hall. Unfortunately, by then potential suitors may already have spent their cap. Much like last year...it would be very easy for the flames to look trade constipated (metaphorically speaking) again this year.

Exactly.

Of course, if Treliving does want to target Hall/trade Gaudreau and is able to secure Hall's rights and sign him prior to the draft, then Gaudreau could be traded at the 2020 draft.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think my ideal offseason consists of the Flames trading Johnny to Nee Jersey for a package around the 7th overall+. I would be open to trading Monahan to Buffalo if they offered Cozens + a Dman. Move Rittich to a team looking for a tandem. In free agency with the new found cap space sign Hall and one of Markstrom/Lehner.

If the team is against moving Lindholm to C full time pursue trades for Domi or Dylan Strome to fill the top 6 C spot. This might require a Hanifin trade.

Lastly move Ward back to associate and hire a proven coach.

-New coach
- new top end goalie
- shakeup the core
- long term replacements signed/acquired
- high end futures brought in

In some ways that would represent the most successful off-season any team has had. Very hard to address all that - including addressing core needs (e.g. top end goalie) while also bringing in high end futures/long-term replacements.

Basically saying I don't think that's possible.

[robertsfanatic]

how about this:

Johnny
Rittich

for

Voracek
Hart

Flyers get better forward (and contract) and we get better goalie...win/win?

[TheScorpion]

Philly has been searching for a starter for 30 years. They finally have one. Don't think he's on the table at all.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Philly has been searching for a starter for 30 years. They finally have one. Don't think he's on the table at all.

If we ate JVR and Vorachek we still can’t pry Hart away.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Philly has been searching for a starter for 30 years. They finally have one. Don't think he's on the table at all.

oh i know it's a long shot but I'm biased.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Get Andersen out of Toronto and hire a good coach and see what happens.

If we are still in this situation next summer then blow it up.

I want to see what an elite coach can do with this group.

[1qqaaz]

But why get Andersen out of Toronto, when Lehner is better, younger, and potentially free to acquire? Lehner, once signed, wouldn't be a UFA in a year like Andersen would be.

I'm still skeptical that the Golden Knights can find the space to sign him.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Andersen is better than Lehner IMO.

[TheScorpion]

I broke down the pros and cons of pursuing Max Domi right here:

https://flamesnation.ca/2020/09/03/s...rsue-max-domi/

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Remember Tom McCollum?

Barely. You have a mind like a steel trap.

I guess if a few goalies do get signed in that scenario, there would be a lot of competition for those spots. In theory you'd sign a guy who could play in the NHL in a pinch and seems like there'd be lots of those.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I broke down the pros and cons of pursuing Max Domi right here:

https://flamesnation.ca/2020/09/03/s...rsue-max-domi/

Domi's playoff performance would fit well with this team.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

But why get Andersen out of Toronto, when Lehner is better, younger, and potentially free to acquire? Lehner, once signed, wouldn't be a UFA in a year like Andersen would be.

I'm still skeptical that the Golden Knights can find the space to sign him.

I think Lehner is a top priority for VGK. Meaning, they will do whatever they can to sign him, and then move out necessary players in order to conform with the cap. If the Knights are making a choice between their goalies this off-season, they will choose to move on from Fleury.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I think Lehner is a top priority for VGK. Meaning, they will do whatever they can to sign him, and then move out necessary players in order to conform with the cap. If the Knights are making a choice between their goalies this off-season, they will choose to move on from Fleury.

Moving Fleury is going to cost them at least a 1st round pick.

I'm all for them going that route. He also has a modified-NTC (10 team no trade list) to make it that extra little bit of annoying for Vegas.