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Old 09-02-2020, 05:31 PM   #4421
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The more I watch VGK and NYI the more I feel we need a new coach and a defensive structure and a few tweaks.
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Old 09-02-2020, 06:40 PM   #4422
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The more I am thinking about things, the more I think we should try and use Bennett's great playoff to see if we can use him in a package to add a top 6 forward. We need to get deeper down the middle, that means either adding another top 6 center, or adding a winger and moving Lindholm to center.

If for example we could move Bennett + futures for someone like Domi, we could slide Lindholm to Tkachuk's line and Backlund to the 3rd line.
Or we could see if that display was Sam Bennett's coming out party at centre and already have that player here.
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The more I watch VGK and NYI the more I feel we need a new coach and a defensive structure and a few tweaks.
Just look what Barry Trotz did with the Capitals and then the Islanders. A coach is the most pressing need for this team.
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Or we could see if that display was Sam Bennett's coming out party at centre and already have that player here.
Yeah, what was I thinking wanting someone who has already shown they're a player, over perennial disappointment.
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What do people think of the Murray rumor? Some people seem to think he's damaged goods. Tough decision there....
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Just look what Barry Trotz did with the Capitals and then the Islanders. A coach is the most pressing need for this team.
Preferably of Tortz's level
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If the Islanders won the cup, would you offer sheet Barzal?
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What do people think of the Murray rumor? Some people seem to think he's damaged goods. Tough decision there....
Could be a fresh start elsewhere candidate. And I think the Flames have been knocking on the Matt Murray door before. Cant recall the rumor from what the Flames send Pitts but Bjugstad coming over as well solves another issue for the Flames, another RHS.
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The more I watch VGK and NYI the more I feel we need a new coach and a defensive structure and a few tweaks.
The Golden Knights and Islanders are polar opposite teams.

Vegas is a possession and scoring chance powerhouse while the Islanders are the total opposite and seem to literally only care about defense.

The only similarity is that Vegas is just as good defensively as New York, but are 10x better offensively.
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If the Islanders won the cup, would you offer sheet Barzal?
Only way I would offer sheet Barzal is if i personally wanted to sleep with the fish. But Lou would scare me and my possibly longevity as a GM.
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Only way I would offer sheet Barzal is if i personally wanted to sleep with the fish. But Lou would scare me and my possibly longevity as a GM.
This is why you would probably be a terrible NHL GM.

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I think Backes is a capable number 2 center. Plays a very good 200 foot game. I really don’t think that is the weakest link in this team.

I think Monahan is a number one center in this league. I do not think he is a top 10 center in this league. With the right parts in the right places, we are closer to our goal
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Rather than gambling on Murray, I'd gamble on Fleury. He's shown he can play, isn't terribly old, and could be the starter for three or four seasons here. Murray's price will go up in the next few weeks and some team will trade at least a 1st to roll the dice and discover which Murray they'll get. The GM that gets him will overpay and be exposed as a cockmeasurer, no doubt.
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I think Backes is a capable number 2 center. Plays a very good 200 foot game. I really don’t think that is the weakest link in this team.

I think Monahan is a number one center in this league. I do not think he is a top 10 center in this league. With the right parts in the right places, we are closer to our goal
You're surely not talking about David Backes...

Right?
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What do people think of the Murray rumor? Some people seem to think he's damaged goods. Tough decision there....
No more half measures for a goalie. Either pay for Lehner/Markstrom, or stick with what you’ve got and wait.

Sick of giving up picks and assets for a goalie that stays with us for one/two years or is just not worth it.
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Rather than gambling on Murray, I'd gamble on Fleury. He's shown he can play, isn't terribly old, and could be the starter for three or four seasons here. Murray's price will go up in the next few weeks and some team will trade at least a 1st to roll the dice and discover which Murray they'll get. The GM that gets him will overpay and be exposed as a cockmeasurer, no doubt.
Nice try Fleury
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Old 09-02-2020, 09:13 PM   #4437
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You're surely not talking about David Backes...

Right?
No. Backlund.
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Nice try Fleury
I agree with Fleury on this one. I would take a runner on fleury... if I was close to being a cup contender. Unfortunately, I don’t think we are that close.

On the other hand, I would want to know what Murray would want or be looking for on his next contract. If it wasn’t friendly to the team, I am probably saying no to either of them.
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What do people think of the Murray rumor? Some people seem to think he's damaged goods. Tough decision there....
A Murray and Gillies/Zagidulin duo would likely cost the as much a Talbot and Rittich tandem.

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1. Sam Bennett
2. Dillon Dube
3. Oliver Kylington
4. Emilio Pettersen
https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/matt...sible-targets/
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A Murray and Gillies/Zagidulin duo would likely cost the as much a Talbot and Rittich tandem.

https://pittsburghhockeynow.com/matt...sible-targets/
At least the first set is young enough to have upside.

Either way, the Flames need a new goaltending coach. I think we can all agree on that.
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