The 2016 US American Election Thread

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by jayswin

What's everyone's jazz name?

I'm Moon Moon

[CaptainCrunch]

Donald J. Trump
@TrumpInsulter
Losers such as Edmonton Oilers use me for publicity for themselves. They are strictly third rate.

[photon]

A few new pieces of information for me in here, I didn't know so many non-SCOTUS judge appointments were being blocked, didn't know 'judicial emergency' was a thing, and also didn't know about the Recess Clause.

Pursuant to the Recess Clause of the Constitution, “the President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.”

There is precedent for doing so: President Eisenhower did this in 1956, when the Senate was in recess, installing Justice Brennan on the Supreme Court. (He was confirmed when the Senate returned in 1957). And while the Senate can remain in “pro forma session” to avoid a formal recess, the one time it can’t do that is when a new Senate has been elected but not sworn in. In other words, there’s a window.

Of course, as the Constitution says, the recess appointment only lasts until the end of the next legislative session. But that’s two years, during which time Justice Garland serves on the Supreme Court, absent any congressional action whatsoever. And not just Garland – President Obama could name recess appointments to the dozens of vacancies in the federal system.

That would be, to put it mildly, a contentious act. But with Republican Senators going on record in favor of a permanent stonewall, the outgoing president would have ample cover to do something, anything, to end the judicial emergency they have created.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...al-crisis.html

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by photon

A few new pieces of information for me in here, I didn't know so many non-SCOTUS judge appointments were being blocked, didn't know 'judicial emergency' was a thing, and also didn't know about the Recess Clause.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...al-crisis.html

I really hope Obama does that. The public opinion would definitely be on his side with how childish the Republicans have been about this, and the GOP would go berserk at having their ball being taken away from them

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I really hope Obama does that. The public opinion would definitely be on his side with how childish the Republicans have been about this, and the GOP would go berserk at having their ball being taken away from them

The public sentiment would probably be very mixed. A lot of polls show a majority of citizens fear a more liberal court than disapprove of a blockade.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by photon

A few new pieces of information for me in here, I didn't know so many non-SCOTUS judge appointments were being blocked, didn't know 'judicial emergency' was a thing, and also didn't know about the Recess Clause.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...al-crisis.html

I could be wrong, but I believe the Republicans have been using a loophole where even when they're in recess for practical terms, all they need to do is have one senator come in every 3 days, gavel congress into session and then out of session, and technically never actually enter a recess.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politic...ss-senate-year

[photon]

Originally Posted by octothorp

I could be wrong, but I believe the Republicans have been using a loophole where even when they're in recess for practical terms, all they need to do is have one senator come in every 3 days, gavel congress into session and then out of session, and technically never actually enter a recess.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politic...ss-senate-year

Yeah, the article mentions that there's a window where that won't work.

And while the Senate can remain in “pro forma session” to avoid a formal recess, the one time it can’t do that is when a new Senate has been elected but not sworn in. In other words, there’s a window.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Amazing podcast. Sam Harris and Andrew Sullivan torch both candidates for 2 and a half hours.

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/the-lesser-evil.

It is a good listen. I think Sullivan is too hard on Clinton, overall. How she operates, her guardedness, some of her calculated wording, her lack of connection to people, etc I think has a lot to do with being beat down constantly for 30 years.

The systematic takedown of Trump by Harris and Sullivan is something to behold though.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Bunk

It is a good listen. I think Sullivan is too hard on Clinton, overall. How she operates, her guardedness, some of her calculated wording, her lack of connection to people, etc I think has a lot to do with being beat down constantly for 30 years.

The systematic takedown of Trump by Harris and Sullivan is something to behold though.

Ahahahahaha oh please.

[Senator Clay Davis]

*shrugs shoulders*

Bradd JaffyVerified account
‏@BraddJaffy
Trump jokes: "We should just cancel the election and just give it to Trump, right? What are we even having it for? Her policies are so bad!"

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/statu...58309787332608

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by peter12

Ahahahahaha oh please.

Her experience as First Lady alone would have made most shy away from public life ever again. Heck, even the demonization and vitriol directed at her during the 1993-94 health care effort would have been enough to deal with for most.

I think these experiences have shaped her. It's bound to. And I think people interpret guardedness and carefully chosen words (to a fault?) as her being entirely disingenuous or having some innate quality as a dishonest person. I just don't think that's true.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by peter12

Ahahahahaha oh please.

Oh I'm dying to hear your insights on this one. Are you trying to suggest there has to been an endless string of attacks on the Clintons since Bill took office almost 25 years ago, and they have not continued while Hillary has been in the public eye?

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Amazing podcast. Sam Harris and Andrew Sullivan torch both candidates for 2 and a half hours.

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/the-lesser-evil.

I think I posted this link already, but if you enjoyed that one I highly recommend the Common Sense podcast, in particular this episode:
http://podbay.fm/show/155974141/e/14...26?autostart=1

Takes a little longer to get to the subject of these elections, but some really good context

[Senator Clay Davis]

English, mother####er, do you speak it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by troutman

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...ton-over-trump

Accepting that his presidential bid will fail, Libertarian vice presidential candidate Bill Weld on Tuesday obliquely urged voters to vote for Hillary Clinton.

In a Tuesday statement addressed to "those in the electorate who remain torn between two so-called major party candidates," the former Massachusetts governor told Republicans not to vote for the GOP nominee out of “fear for our country.”

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That's gotta be unprecedented

You might even say... un-presidented.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

*shrugs shoulders*



https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/statu...58309787332608

Trump really, truly believes that because he can get 1-2000 people to cheer and eat every word he speaks, no matter where he goes, that means most of the country is doing the same. He has no concept that he is generally speaking to the top 0.1% of his most ardent supporters wherever he goes. I can see how that would be intoxicating to a megalomaniac such as himself. I suppose most politician who reach the pinnacle of being a presidential nominee have similar inclinations. But I guess the benefit of being a career politician is you realize along the way you have to have a message that resonates to somewhere around half the population.

[bob-loblaw]

Pence's plane slid off the runway at LaGuardia.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

Pence's plane slid off the runway at LaGuardia.

Media bias

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by nik-

Media bias

Rigged

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

Pence's plane slid off the runway at LaGuardia.

Originally Posted by nik-

Media bias

Originally Posted by bob-loblaw

Rigged

Crooked.