Only reason leaf nation is upset is because they at the risk of losing one of their better players for a couple weeks. They can probably barely afford to bring up a replacement. If they go on a slide, things could get interesting if they are on the outside looking in after the dust settles.
Maybe this is the time for Conroy to get that first rounder.
Apparently last year when Reilly was hurt, the Leafs were something like 12-2-1
Maybe it's selective bias but it seems to me often when a key player gets hurt and you assume the team is going to plummet, and then they do it quite well, as if the players realize how screwed they are and step it up, or the opposing teams take it lightly. Presumably the longer a player is like the less likely that is sustainable, though.
I keep thinking of that year Hasek got hurt in the playoffs for Bufflo, and everyone in Toronto assumed they would win easily. Then the backup (Roloson, maybe?) came in and stole a game, and everyone was in shock. The next game, amidst reports Hasek was done, the Leafs won, but then Hasek came back and the Sabres won the series.
Yeah there is definitely a bit of banding together that seems to push things. I guess I hope all the drama around it causes some distractions. Keefe is already doing the whole the us vs the world.
This makes the most sense of anything else you said in this thread.
I would be surprised if Ridley didn’t fight a leaf(should be Rielly ) in their next meeting. He should now be pissed at the cross check and the lack of chance to defend himself face to face. The attention this has gotten now would likely make him feel this needs to be done. Very similar to the whole Tkachuk/Kassian deal. Greig isn’t a showboat and grew up learning old school hockey. I expected him to answer the bell or even be the one that rings it. This is less about the clapper now(which I thought was awesome) but everything that has happened immediately after especially the over attention.
Every time someone tries to explain the code it becomes immediately clear that there are dozens of examples every game that go against the code where nobody even considers responding and that the code is actually just a made up excuse for acting like a troglodyte.
Man, woman, hockey player, broadcaster. No matter who you are, if you believe Greig’s action needed more response than “play better” or “respond in kind” then you’re a cave person. Here’s a couple rocks, enjoy smacking them together for a few hours. It’s impossible to defend the code here without undercutting your own intelligence.
Pretty much this. Some fans just like violence and will randomly defend it when they think there's an opportunity.
I really felt we were making progress with this stuff for a while, but I guess with ultra-conservatism on the rise in general, this is to be expected.
Rielly was being a baby, just a perfect example of a ridiculously immature manchild, but somehow because he threw a tantrum that was violent it's something to defend for some people.
How about you try to actually do that hockey better.
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While the attitude towards things certainly changes (Milbury going into the crowd and beating a fan with a shoe would probably result in a hefty lawsuit and maybe jail time now, the aforementioned Ron Hextall, etc..), at it's base, part of the entertainment of hockey has always been the violence. Yes, legal checks etc.., but also the unhinged spurts of insanity common enough that a spontaneous bareknuckle fight is considered actually "part of the game". Even some of the people in here who are hating on Rielly are also saying it would somehow be better of Rielly punched him instead. Like, why? How is that less ridiculous?
But I'm not hating on it. It wasn't long ago that people watched gladiators kill each other for sport. This is pretty much the same impulse. It's the same thing that makes us laugh when someone gets hit in the nuts. As long is a "recoverable" pain, it's deemed mostly okay in our brain. We'll watch someone get hurt over and over as long as we know they survived. This is part of what made hockey popular in the first place and it will always remain part of it.
That doesn't take away from the objective fact that Rielly's reaction is pure crybaby. If anyone did that in real life you'd be sued into the ground. It's attacking someone with a weapon who insulted you. Yes, you were insulted. That doesn't give you the right to attack someone, even in a hockey game.
While the attitude towards things certainly changes (Milbury going into the crowd and beating a fan with a shoe would probably result in a hefty lawsuit and maybe jail time now, the aforementioned Ron Hextall, etc..), at it's base, part of the entertainment of hockey has always been the violence. Yes, legal checks etc.., but also the unhinged spurts of insanity common enough that a spontaneous bareknuckle fight is considered actually "part of the game". Even some of the people in here who are hating on Rielly are also saying it would somehow be better of Rielly punched him instead. Like, why? How is that less ridiculous?
But I'm not hating on it. It wasn't long ago that people watched gladiators kill each other for sport. This is pretty much the same impulse. It's the same thing that makes us laugh when someone gets hit in the nuts. As long is a "recoverable" pain, it's deemed mostly okay in our brain. We'll watch someone get hurt over and over as long as we know they survived. This is part of what made hockey popular in the first place and it will always remain part of it.
That doesn't take away from the objective fact that Rielly's reaction is pure crybaby. If anyone did that in real life you'd be sued into the ground. It's attacking someone with a weapon who insulted you. Yes, you were insulted. That doesn't give you the right to attack someone, even in a hockey game.
Why does road rage happen then? Road rage happens over the stupidest things.
Overall, it's about trust and fairness. I have to drive responsibly, who do you think you are?
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Watching the Oilers defend is like watching fire engines frantically rushing to the wrong fire
Everyone knows there is a real life code. You block my car on my own driveway by parking in front of my driveway and I get to take a crow bar to your car. It is code that almost anyone knows, a man’s house is his castle and you don’t mess with that.
My apologies for my initial response to you. I didn’t read it in green text, which to be fair (to me), some of the posts have been way out there, it is hard to spot the green text from the seriously nuts.
Where was the showboating that Iginla was responding to? It's like it's not the same situation at all, but nice try. Meanwhile, there's a video above of actual showboating and nobody crosschecking him to head.
for sure, it should be more though...I can't see how they can cry conspiracy when recent comparables point to 6 games at least. For me anyway. As far as the slapshot goes it's irrelevant to what the suspension should be.
for sure, it should be more though...I can't see how they can cry conspiracy when recent comparables point to 6 games at least. For me anyway. As far as the slapshot goes it's irrelevant to what the suspension should be.
Guy didn't get injured so it will be on the lower end. My guess is 4 or 5
