Obi-Wan Kenobi | Disney+ | (spoilers)

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Coach

So awesome. That Vader/Obi-Wan duel should have been in a different version of Episode 3 where those movies were better. It did beg the question as to why Obi Wan wouldn’t have killed Vader at that point.

Either way loved it. Maybe the best lightsaber duel in canon now. Very similar to the Ashoka duel. Him screaming “Obi-Wan!” Through his robotic twisted voice. So great.

Going back to the ROTS book, sorry, but its really well done.



But first of all, Kenobi felt the approaching Darth Sidious, but didn't know how soon.


Second, after the duel, Obi-Wan stood over Anakin's body, and he thought about his fallen friend, betrayer, child murderer. But at his core, he still loved him and couldn't bring himself to kill him, he knew at that point he couldn't save him either. He also decided to leave Anakin's faith in the hands of the Force.



I think that Obi-Wan was frightened, Anakin should have been dead, he's lost multiple limbs, he had burned and only Anakin's peerless command of the Force kept him alive. There had to be a reason for that.



Obi-Wan believed that Anakin had died on Mustafar. At the end of the book Dark Lord, Obi-Wan was in a bar in Tatooine, when he saw a news report of Vader slaughtering and enslaving Wookies. He prepared to go and gather Luke and go get Leia and go deeper into hiding when he heard the voice of Qui-gon.



Qui-gon told Obi that there was still a spark of the good man that was Anakin buried deep in Vader, and Vader would never step foot on Tatooine because it would cause him pain and might awaken that conflict inside of him.

[Cole436]

Yeah that was awesome. The series nailed the landing and fully justified bringing Hayden Christensen back. It feels like the showrunners knew exactly the story they wanted to build up to; it works by itself and as a bridge to ANH.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Going back to the ROTS book, sorry, but its really well done.



But first of all, Kenobi felt the approaching Darth Sidious, but didn't know how soon.


Second, after the duel, Obi-Wan stood over Anakin's body, and he thought about his fallen friend, betrayer, child murderer. But at his core, he still loved him and couldn't bring himself to kill him, he knew at that point he couldn't save him either. He also decided to leave Anakin's faith in the hands of the Force.



I think that Obi-Wan was frightened, Anakin should have been dead, he's lost multiple limbs, he had burned and only Anakin's peerless command of the Force kept him alive. There had to be a reason for that.



Obi-Wan believed that Anakin had died on Mustafar. At the end of the book Dark Lord, Obi-Wan was in a bar in Tatooine, when he saw a news report of Vader slaughtering and enslaving Wookies. He prepared to go and gather Luke and go get Leia and go deeper into hiding when he heard the voice of Qui-gon.



Qui-gon told Obi that there was still a spark of the good man that was Anakin buried deep in Vader, and Vader would never step foot on Tatooine because it would cause him pain and might awaken that conflict inside of him.

I know you like the books. But they don’t make the movies better for people who don’t read them.

Also, I’m just getting at the whole series could have started in a different way and both what happened in ROTS and this could have happened in a proper prequel trilogy. One that actually had a little Vader in it. Some blend of the finale season of Clone Wars and this show.

[djsFlames]

Could've been a 5/5 series if the rest of it was as lean and mean as that episode.

5/5 conclusion though.

[CaptainCrunch]

I just love how Obi went after Vaders chest regulator and it was brutal.



Part of me can imagine the pain that Obi was going through at making his friend suffer again as we heard Vader groaning in pain and struggling to breath.


Ewan completely teared up during his apology, he took ownership of the whole situation. Vaders voice slipping between Hayden's and JEJ's Vader voice illustrated the conflict within, but as the conversation went on, JEJ's voice even in the mixer was more prevalent.


Having Obi apologize and Anakin's simple reply of "I'm not your failure, you didn't kill Anakin, I did" allowed Obi to finally as he said realize his friend was dead and absolve himself of his guilt and self loathing that led him back to being the Obi that he was in the PT.



Did anyone else fist pump when we finally got "Hello there"? I really did though it was just after 2 in the morning.


Its funny. In the end Obi created his own fate and gained a lot of self awareness. Anakin had to have it taught to him, as he was convinced that his hate and rage against Obi was making him strong, and Sidious ever the wise and kindly master revealed that his obsession with Obi-Wan and even the rest of the Jedi made him weak. I loved that bit of Sith Wisdom from the true most powerful Sith Lord in history.



They had a real opportunity to end the series with the whole "Leave the Galaxy in darkness". And they could have. With a new focused and driven Vader stomping out liberty in the galaxy and with the Empire at arguably their most powerful. But instead they focused more on optimism. We can see the type of Leader that Leia is going to become. We see Obi getting closure and seeing a path forward. We see that Luke is safe with people who clearly love him and will die to protect him. Even with Reva we see that to an extent redemption is possible.

[soreshins]

That was great - thoroughly enjoyed it.

I’ve not watched all of the Clone Wars series and know Maul is in that but is there any way they bring Maul into a season 2 of Kenobi seeing as he appeared in Solo?

[BigT112]

Originally Posted by soreshins

That was great - thoroughly enjoyed it.

I’ve not watched all of the Clone Wars series and know Maul is in that but is there any way they bring Maul into a season 2 of Kenobi seeing as he appeared in Solo?

He and Obi-Wan have a very satisfying conclusion to their arc in Rebels which is worth checking out. Even just the clips on Youtube if you don't want to watch Rebels.

[GreenLantern]

There was a lot of good in that finale, which I mainly focused on.

I still think the whole third sister arc was shoe horned in by Disney and it felt rushed and almost pointless. It's ok to just have a show with a couple white guys as the leads.

The fight with Vader was great, but man Obi-Wan felt OP there.. like quite a bit more powerful than anything we saw in the prequels?

I liked the conclusions, the Hello There was awesome and the Qui-Gon cameo was great. I loved how he just kind of faded into view, Obi-Wan had become at peace with the force and this was the result.

I did also like how Vader was hell bent on finding Obi-Wan, showing a ton of emotion and anger through the voice, and then the Emporer reigned him in and re focused that hatred for his own purposes.

I found it a little weird how Obi-Wan just left Vader there again, when he could have finished it off.. but obviously for canon purposes, he can't lol.

Overall it was a very entertaining series and I know from the interviews this was a bit of a healing process for Christensen and Mcgregor as well, so I am happy for them.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by soreshins

That was great - thoroughly enjoyed it.

I’ve not watched all of the Clone Wars series and know Maul is in that but is there any way they bring Maul into a season 2 of Kenobi seeing as he appeared in Solo?

They have such a satisfying conclusion in Rebels which happens only a few years after the current Obi-Wan timeline. I'm not sure how they would make that work without undercutting Ezra's story.

But I think we all said that about Vader as well and look how that worked out.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cole436

They have such a satisfying conclusion in Rebels which happens only a few years after the current Obi-Wan timeline. I'm not sure how they would make that work without undercutting Ezra's story.

But I think we all said that about Vader as well and look how that worked out.

Agreed, I don't think we need Maul in a Kenobi story, they handled him incredibly well in TCW and in Rebels where he was more then focused on his revenge against his former master.


Obi and Maul not running into each other for nearly two decades and Maul commenting on how old Obi had become was great. The final duel was beautifully done. The end of Maul was tragic and satisfying.


I expect that if they do a season two its more about Ben helping the underground rail road for the Jedi and Rebels, we'll get more of the Grand Inquisitor and his department with Vader being the menace in the background.



They could if they wanted to add Hett into Canon with a story on Tatooine.

[N-E-B]

Qui-Gon looks like he had some plastic surgery in the afterlife. But for real, absolutely loved that cameo.

Loved that last episode. Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine will never get old.

This series is baffling. It started out so well. Then the middle two episodes I had major issues with. But the last two they nailed.

I wish they had more of that and less Reva/Leia goose chase stuff.

Overall a solid 7.5/10 for me.

[Locke]

I will give them credit for sticking the landing. That was, overall, very enjoyable.

I thought this was going to be a one-and-done Limited Series, but I'd be okay with the ongoing 'Adventures of Obi-Wan' from time to time if they just made it a little more like the Mandalorian.

As for the run of the series itself? That could have been a tight 4 episodes without all the chaff.

I get it. If its 6 episodes you con people into 2 months of Disney+ rather than a tight series only gets 1 month. Thats getting more than a little annoying.

[Locke]

Will there be a Sequel?



Obi-Wan...Hello There...Standing By!



Obi-Two...Standing By!



Obie-Trice...Standing By!

[FireGilbert]

Me when they cut away from the epic Vader vs Obi Wan fight to show Luke running in the dark.






I loved that fight scene and it somewhat redeemed their overused CGI fight in Episode III. The choreography lighting, music, and voice changes were very well done. Was half expecting Vader to make a high ground reference though.

Didn't like the Reva bits that felt like an unnecessary addition to shoe horn in a character arc and get Luke involved at the expense of taking time away from the heart of the story. I didn't mind the Reva addition overall but she should have stayed dead in episode 5 leaving the finale to be all about Obi Wan and Vader.

Overall I enjoyed the show for providing an interesting story about a typically non interesting character and having the visual feel of the original trilogy but it was let down by some strange writing choices.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Me when they cut away from the epic Vader vs Obi Wan fight to show Luke running in the dark.






I loved that fight scene and it somewhat redeemed their overused CGI fight in Episode III. The choreography lighting, music, and voice changes were very well done. Was half expecting Vader to make a high ground reference though.

Didn't like the Reva bits that felt like an unnecessary addition to shoe horn in a character arc and get Luke involved at the expense of taking time away from the heart of the story. I didn't mind the Reva addition overall but she should have stayed dead in episode 5 leaving the finale to be all about Obi Wan and Vader.

Overall I enjoyed the show for providing an interesting story about a typically non interesting character and having the visual feel of the original trilogy but it was let down by some strange writing choices.

OOOOOOO I needed it so bad in that moment. Would have been so good.

[CaptainCrunch]

He didn't need to say it when he was standing over Obi-Wan in the crater. His body language said it all.


And how awesome was it to see shatterpoint bought into Canon.

[djsFlames]

Love the planet/environment of the duel. It was a bad-ass setting. And I like the fact that Vader resorted to hurling boulders. The emperor gave his suit terrible mechanics on purpose for losing to Obi-Wan the first time, so him compensating for his disadvantage in mobility by using his strength in the force makes sense.

Totally redeemed that stupid California desert planet in episode 3 that looked like someone just filmed a fan fiction short behind a construction site somewhere.

[djsFlames]

I cared nothing for the side characters here, and they end up being forgettable and utterly inconsequential to anything bigger picture.

If they continue the series I would ask that they find something a little less vanilla/ordinary for side character arcs.

Also the rebellion becomes very, well.. Caucasian by the time the OT rolls around. Don't be afraid to use some white guys with 70s hairdos for some continuity. That rag tag group looked nothing like the rebellion we know from IV-VI.

[shogged]

i love darth vader

[FanIn80]

That Reva character was so annoying throughout the whole series. I wanted it to end with Obi using the force to interrupt her mid-swing and then destroying her while Luke was passed out.

Also, as soon as Vader's helmet cracked open I was like... yep here it is. He's gonna see Anakin and put his sabre away. I mean, obviously Vader wasn't going to die... it was just the feeling of knowing hundreds of thousands of lives could have been spared if one Jedi just put his big boy pants on and did what needed to be done.

Name a more iconic duo than "Jedi" and "not finishing the job."


Everything else aside, though, I enjoyed the series. Final episode was by far the best one.