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Old 02-25-2014, 07:03 PM   #421
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Cammalleri doesn't help anything. The team has actually been significantly better when he's been in the press box this season.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:08 PM   #422
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I don't think Burke has any intention of re-signing Cammalleri at all.

"The offer" is all for show. He knows damn well it's an offer Cammalleri won't accept before turning free agent.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:21 PM   #423
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If resigned, this will remind me of the contradiction from Feaster, and now Burke.

Truculence on one hand and a undersized, post apex forward on the other.

If it goes down, I will not like it one bit.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:21 PM   #424
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The fact that he was so guarded on giving any details that may signify that any contract signing is imminent just tells you that it's all fluff aimed to get other teams on the phone. Burke clearly said that UFAs who don't sign by the deadline will be getting shopped, and it doesn't sound like they've closed in on anything real (otherwise he would've indicated something). I think it's obvious that they've strategized this together, and Cammy is going to lead the media and fans on to thinking it might happen, but it surely won't. And in the process he'll fetch the team a nice package and get to go to a possible contender.

He'll be dealt.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:31 PM   #425
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I guarantee that this is all a smoke and mirrors show by Burkie.

Trying to get other teams to up their offers a bit.
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:53 PM   #426
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I guarantee that this is all a smoke and mirrors show by Burkie.

Trying to get other teams to up their offers a bit.
Definitely what I'm thinking as well.

If teams think the Flames won't sign Cammo then they'll lowball their offers. If the Flames have to option to just re-sign him then it'll force teams to pay up.

Hopefully it's not all smoke and mirrors though. If the offer's are bad then I hope Burke re-signs Cammy. Wouldn't want a situation like what happened with the Panthers and Bouwmeester. Turn down all the deadline offers, can't re-sign him, have to flip his rights for scrub and a 3rd.
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Old 02-25-2014, 08:04 PM   #427
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Old 02-25-2014, 08:41 PM   #428
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Listening to Burke this morning he stated what he always does in terms of GM's making their biggest mistake on deadline day. After he said that it made me think we will have to wait until next Wednesday to see some action. He is playing it smart with Cammy letting the league know that he is not forced to move him. Also I read on hockey buzz (flames blog) that Hudler is getting big interest and I personally think that if Cammy is retained Hudler is gone. No way both small wingers are on the roster next year

Glad you posted this. I am not sure that Burke is blowing smoke on re-signing Cammi. I think Burke is hoping to re-sign Cammy on a home town discount contract. I think Burke would like to get a A+ prospect into the system. Lets face it none of the rental players are bringing anything close to that. I keep reading that GM's don't want to give up much for a rental player and rather trade for a player with term. My gut tells me that if Cammi signs then Hudler gets traded at the deadline. I think Hudler has more value than any of our rentals. Also if Burke is serious about eating cap $, then imagine what they could get for Hudler if the ate half a million to a million on each year of Hudlers contract. At $3 million a year, Hudler would have a great return.

If the trend continues with teams wanting term instead of rental players at the deadline then they could trade Cammi in 2-3 years ( have to think that Cammi would not sign for anything less than 4 years). Granted this probably means nothing because i don't think Cammi is going to sign for below market value.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:04 PM   #429
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I don't think Burke has any intention of re-signing Cammalleri at all.

"The offer" is all for show. He knows damn well it's an offer Cammalleri won't accept before turning free agent.
On the flip side, I would think Cammy's camp is asking for exorbitantly high contract demands because even though he knows he isn't worth what he's making now based on recent performance, he can certainly take advantage of a desperate team come July 1, a la Clarkson and Bozak. He could probably get what he's making now, if not a little more (cue a Maple Leafs ridiculous contract offer).

Additionally I wouldn't be surprised if Burke and Hartley are planning to give Gaudreau an extremely fair shot at the small offensive forward role next year.

I would think both parties are playing the extremes game on purpose.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:44 PM   #430
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I think most people would agree Hudler isn't going anywhere this year.
I agree most people think that on here. I simply ask why? Hudler's contract will expire well before this team is ready to truly benefit from his abilities, so other than to fill the mentor / good role model role and the get us to the floor role (which I agree we need some folks to fill) why else do we keep him?

People assume he stays because he's on contract and because they prefer him to stay because he's "newer" than some of the other veterans on this team. But fact remains, he will likely play his best years and have his contract run out on a rebuilding Calgary team. Fact also remains that he's likely our most desirable forward asset that is not young and our most movable due to no NTC and a friendly cap hit for the value he brings.

No rush to do it, strike when the iron is hot, but if Burke isn't looking at ways to move this guy and get some good return for him while stock is high, he's not doing his job.
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:46 PM   #431
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I am sure Burke did offer Cammalleri a fair contract. He is part of the leadership group that has this team going hard. He is also one of our best forwards.

That said, Burke isn't going to overpay. Trading Cammalleri is a fine option if he doesn't accept the fair offer.

It's win win for Calgary. Good player on a good contract, or we get the return from the trade.

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Old 02-25-2014, 11:09 PM   #432
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Cammy needs to be dealt.

If we need to hit the cap floor, throw a ton of money at a FA in the summer for a short deal...and then deal them too. You could probably re-sign Cammy in the summer if you really want him that badly. If Cammy is willing to move, there's no reason not to do it.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:49 AM   #433
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Care to give a quote about Burke complaining about the Iginla/Bouwmeester deals? I am assuming you can't because no such thing was ever said, it is just assumed by fans those are the trades he is referring to.
Care to give a quote where I am talking about the Iginla or Bouwmeester deals? I am assuming you can't because no such thing was said by me. It was just assumed by Alberta Beef that those are the trades I was referring to.
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Old 02-26-2014, 03:25 AM   #434
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Care to give a quote where I am talking about the Iginla or Bouwmeester deals? I am assuming you can't because no such thing was said by me. It was just assumed by Alberta Beef that those are the trades I was referring to.
You stated 2 assets traded at the deadline. So either you are talking about Bouwmeester and Iginla, or you are talking about Comeau. I would say that my assumption was pretty safe. When talking about Feaster not liking returns in trades, I don't think he said anything about the deadline, so he could have been referring to any deals made during Feaster's tenure.
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