Cammy and flames talking extension

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by UKflames

If we resign Cammy it just makes a mockery of everyone who was running around saying that Burke was going to fleece every GM under the sun at the trade deadline, get us a load of extra picks and decent prospects. Well so far we have seen squat of the great Burke in action, all we have is a prospect that was suspended and a player that cannot skate for toffee but he brings toughness to the line up, woopee do.

Sounds to me like all of the BB fans are covering their behinds by using the "he'll be a great mentor for the kids" line when all Burke does is resign everyone and trade no one. I hope I am proved wrong and Burke does make some decent trades before the 5th but so far his showing is pretty underwhelming.

Closet Burke fan.....he moved three mountains while you were typing that.

I would be surprised if any offer to Cammy was acceptable to Cammy. IMO this would be an offer to say they made one....nothing he would actually accept unless he really really truly loves Calgary.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I wonder if Cammy would really be willing to go on a team that makes the playoffs for a SC run, then comes back and resigns with us. Once Gaudreau officially becomes an NHLer, that's when we trade Cammy.

[stemit14]

I listened to cammalleri on the radio this afternoon. I admire how much of a pro he is on and off the ice and I do think he is a good leader on this team. He's aLso really composed in every interview he does. I'm ok with trading him or with re-signing him and I think it will come down to what he wants. I'll wish him the best if he does choose to go.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by UKflames

If we resign Cammy it just makes a mockery of everyone who was running around saying that Burke was going to fleece every GM under the sun at the trade deadline, get us a load of extra picks and decent prospects. Well so far we have seen squat of the great Burke in action, all we have is a prospect that was suspended and a player that cannot skate for toffee but he brings toughness to the line up, woopee do.

Sounds to me like all of the BB fans are covering their behinds by using the "he'll be a great mentor for the kids" line when all Burke does is resign everyone and trade no one. I hope I am proved wrong and Burke does make some decent trades before the 5th but so far his showing is pretty underwhelming.

Sometimes you're stuck with the hand you've got. Just because you want to trade someone doesn't mean it's possible. If no one wants to offer us anything of significance for Cammy then I don't see the point in dealing. What exactly are you expecting Burke to do? We're not exactly a shining beacon of desirable talent right now.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I wonder if Cammy would really be willing to go on a team that makes the playoffs for a SC run, then comes back and resigns with us. Once Gaudreau officially becomes an NHLer, that's when we trade Cammy.

Why? I'm perfectly content to take the assets and move on. Cammalleri's talent is not properly utilized on the current Flames. He'll become a 1st line player again on a better team, while here he's lucky to be a 40 pt player.

[Vinny01]

Listening to Burke this morning he stated what he always does in terms of GM's making their biggest mistake on deadline day. After he said that it made me think we will have to wait until next Wednesday to see some action. He is playing it smart with Cammy letting the league know that he is not forced to move him. Also I read on hockey buzz (flames blog) that Hudler is getting big interest and I personally think that if Cammy is retained Hudler is gone. No way both small wingers are on the roster next year

[UKflames]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This sounds more like a "I hate Brian Burke" post than an actual opinion on the Cammalleri situation.

I admit I am not a Burke fan, haven't been since the day he arrived, but until he hires a new GM the buck stops with him and at this precise moment in time he is required to find takers for our UFA's, something all of the Pro Burke people have said was his strong point. If you want an opinion on the Cammy situation, he should be traded not signed to a new contract, make use of an expiring contract, which is what everyone has been expecting.

Originally Posted by cDnStealth

Sometimes you're stuck with the hand you've got. Just because you want to trade someone doesn't mean it's possible. If no one wants to offer us anything of significance for Cammy then I don't see the point in dealing. What exactly are you expecting Burke to do? We're not exactly a shining beacon of desirable talent right now.

The fact that we are not a shining beacon of talent is what Burke is supposed to be addressing by dealing away our expiring contracts. When Burke canned Feaster many were over the moon (no pun intended Moon) because they felt that Burke was the guy for the rebuild, he would be doing great trades and adding to that lack of talent, so far he seems to be just reupping players, rather than showing his strength in trades. If he is stuck with the hand he has then he is the wrong guy for a rebuild because that is not the attitude we need right now.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by UKflames

I admit I am not a Burke fan, haven't been since the day he arrived, but until he hires a new GM the buck stops with him and at this precise moment in time he is required to find takers for our UFA's, something all of the Pro Burke people have said was his strong point. If you want an opinion on the Cammy situation, he should be traded not signed to a new contract, make use of an expiring contract, which is what everyone has been expecting.



The fact that we are not a shining beacon of talent is what Burke is supposed to be addressing by dealing away our expiring contracts. When Burke canned Feaster many were over the moon (no pun intended Moon) because they felt that Burke was the guy for the rebuild, he would be doing great trades and adding to that lack of talent, so far he seems to be just reupping players, rather than showing his strength in trades. If he is stuck with the hand he has then he is the wrong guy for a rebuild because that is not the attitude we need right now.

You are putting way too much emphasis on expiring contracts. Non expiring contracts may also be just as valuable and potentially more movable moving forward.

Even when Burke hires a new GM, the buck is still going to stop with him. Given you aren't a fan, that might not be nice to hear, but it's true.

[sureLoss]

[nik-]

Yeah, he's getting traded.

[sureLoss]

MMF probably should tell Cammallerri about his experiences trying to get coffee with Millions

[burn_baby_burn]

With the winter we have had, I don't know why anyone would want to play here. Tampa Bay, Florida, Arizona, Anahiem, LA, and San Jose would be my choices. Maybe Dallas or Carolina as well. Four feet of snow and minus 30. Who wants it when you can make the same money playing somewhere else?

[Alberta_Beef]

What I think we would be great is if they are agreeing to a new contract for July 1st. Get the framework in place now, trade him to a contender and then present the offer immediately on July 1st. Have our cake and eat it too!

[dammage79]

Cammy is a goner. I'd be surprised if he did end up re-signing before the deadline. My guess is the term is where the two sides are far apart on. I don't think Cammy thinks he can nab 6m again but he'd stick to fighting for term so there's some stability for his family.

[Aarongavey]

Why on god's green earth would we re-sign Cammy for the rebuild? Good ole Burke complaining about the return that Feaster was able to get for the two assets last year at the deadline it would be an interesting way to avoid accountability in terms of the ficticious reason for firing Feaster. I want to see these great trades that Brian Burke can pull off, he has pontificated at length about his undeniable talent in this regard.

I sure hope Burke does not just continue with the Feaster's team at the deadline.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Why on god's green earth would we re-sign Cammy for the rebuild? Good ole Burke complaining about the return that Feaster was able to get for the two assets last year at the deadline it would be an interesting way to avoid accountability in terms of the ficticious reason for firing Feaster. I want to see these great trades that Brian Burke can pull off, he has pontificated at length about his undeniable talent in this regard.

I sure hope Burke does not just continue with the Feaster's team at the deadline.

Care to give a quote about Burke complaining about the Iginla/Bouwmeester deals? I am assuming you can't because no such thing was ever said, it is just assumed by fans those are the trades he is referring to.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

resigned to be a mentor and role model to Gaudreau about how to train, handle yourself off ice, and protect yourself on ice?

100% support on that.

Why can't Hudler do this

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by jg13

Why can't Hudler do this

He likely can. Why would you assume we keep Hudler if we re-signed Cammy?

[jg13]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

He likely can. Why would you assume we keep Hudler if we re-signed Cammy?

I think most people would agree Hudler isn't going anywhere this year.

[1991 Canadian]

Its probably already been mentioned in the previous 20 something pages, but I am glad that we have veteran guys like Hudler, Giordano, and hopefully Cammalleri around for this rebuild.

We've seen it in Edmonton. We've seen it in Atlanta. We've seen it in Florida. Without good veteran players you are much more likely to burn out your prospects and facilitate a losing culture.

I like having guys like Cammalleri around to take some of the pressure off our rookies.

I think it is up to the rookie to push the veteran out and make them redundant. I want to see a player earn every shift. It is no wonder guys like Gagner and Eberle have plateaued when you are pushing out low calibre veterans like Smyth for top line minutes.

Yes, there are better players in the league than Cammalleri, but he is still a top 6 forward. I honestly don't think many veteran top 6 forwards have Calgary on their list of acceptable destinations at the moment.