I'm happy that it looks like Trump is gone, but who knows how much damage can occur on the way out the door.
We're probably going to see months of litigation and ugliness.
I mean honestly, we're even seeing some republicans going WTF man this is just awful, and that's great. Maybe we could see a Republican civil war, or a split of the party. who knows.
I mean the smart move after Trump is out of the white house would be to see the Republicans finding a way to excommunicate Trump and his underlings, maybe a flashy ceremony with robes and latin and stuff.
Now Biden has a lot of challenges ahead, he's still going to be dealing with a Rep majority house. He's going to have to find a way to a moderate message that resonates with all Americans.
The Democrats have some work to do as well. The fact that this wasn't an absolute repudiation of Trump and the destruction of the Rep party, means that they have to look at their messaging, and how they deliver it, and why they keep losing things like the Rust belt.
Its just a bad time for American leadership. Trump is/was/will always be. God awful, and the worst of America's soul. But I don't think Biden is all that great either. We'll see.
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Trump is a horrible human being and a horrible candidate, even if his awfulness resonates with a big chunk of the electorate.
But you have to pick your battles, and you have to pick your way of fighting.
Sometimes you fight fire with fire.
Sometimes you fight fire with water.
Sometimes you fight fire with sand.
Sometimes you just let fire burn itself out.
Biden is experienced, kind, and boring. The Democrats fought fire with beige.
And it worked. I don't think there was an Obama 2.0 available. And even if there was, I'm not sure there was a better approach than fighting fire with beige.
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Biden wasn't the most spectacular candidate but he was in retrospect the safest candidate for defeating Trump, and this was the one race that Democrats couldn't afford to lose. I have a hard time saying that any of the other primary candidates would be able to close this out as reliably as Biden and Harris did.
Given that Democrats have underperformed in down-ballot races in every election cycle this decade except 2018 (when they did great in the house but still fell apart in their senate races), I think there's something more problematic that they need to address than who they put at the top of the ticket. Could be those down-ticket candidates. Could be how they organize and outreach at a community level. But they need to fix it for 2022, because if they don't pull out a senate majority there, 2024 is going to be rough for them.
But for real Floridians voted overwhelmingly in favor of of a $15 minum wage. It not that they didn't want progressive policy, it is that Biden is a flaccid shell of a human with no personality.
Won 2 elections as VP
Won a primary in a landslide
Won a presidential election with the most votes ever and a large electoral lead
"Bad candidate"
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Sigh. It's not about convincing the Trumpers. It's about getting your own factual narrative out there to re-assure your own supporters and any possible fence-sitters.
This is good indeed, because it is not coming from the Democrats.
Democrats themselves don't want to go tit for tat with Trump propaganda train because it will make them look defensive. Defensive people often become defensive because they are guilty.
This is why the typical response to wild accusations is "we don't respond to baseless accusations".
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Maybe people would stop saying Biden was a “horrible” candidate if they started acknowledging that Trump was a “very good” candidate to run in an election.
Or perhaps more accurately, the Republican apparatus and ground game is unparalleled in its excellence.
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You can't prove a negative.
We know Biden, or at least it's pretty certain, beat Trump.
We know that.
We don't know if anyone else would have. We can speculate but we don't know.
I'll take the certain outcome over the unknown.
Exactly this.
I think Biden was the safest bet. He may not have been the consensus first choice for a lot of people, but he was probably in the top 3 for the most people. Other candidates had higher boom and bust potential.
This wasn't the year to be going for a wild card. If Trump can do one thing, it's tear people down and ridicule them. It doesn't matter if what he says is truth, just the action causes people to falter. Biden, having been around for so long and seeing it all, was the safest bet to weather that storm.
I personally don't think the high water mark was ever going to be that high for beating Trump and Biden is pretty much meeting my expectations.
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I think Biden was the safest bet. He may not have been the consensus first choice for a lot of people, but he was probably in the top 3 for the most people. Other candidates had higher boom and bust potential.
This wasn't the year to be going for a wild card. If Trump can do one thing, it's tear people down and ridicule them. It doesn't matter if what he says is truth, just the action causes people to falter. Biden, having been around for so long and seeing it all, was the safest bet to weather that storm.
I personally don't think the high water mark was ever going to be that high for beating Trump and Biden is pretty much meeting my expectations.
Exactly.
Blame the mainstream pollsters for selling their voodoo as projections and raising everyone’s hopes for a “Blue Wave.”
The only reason to not have made the call on PA and NV, and thus the election, is to stretch it out more for ratings. If anything not making the call is helping Trump spread disinfo.
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I think there was bad analysis around the "unregistered voters/first time voters" as all being there to vote against Trump, when the vast majority were Non-College Whites, whom mostly vote Republican.
That said, Biden did extremely well with under 25s so that says something.
The only reason to not have made the call on PA and NV, and thus the election, is to stretch it out more for ratings. If anything not making the call is helping Trump spread disinfo.
Being suuuuuuper cautious.
They have been labeled the “fake media” for 4 years by Trump. If they were to jump the gun here, and be wrong, it will only further ruin the public’s trust in that institution.
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That is not true. Kayleigh uses this account: https://twitter.com/kayleighmcenany more often. The @VP account has deleted two tweets in November, but the last on was on November 2nd. This is similar to how people said Kushner deleted all his tweets, when he never actually tweeted from that account in the first place.
Spreading this misinformation is as bad as what the trump family has been doing for years.
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