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Old 10-30-2014, 07:35 AM   #4221
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Confirmed town
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HG
Rathji

Not voting for likely town
squiggs
diss

Considerations for vote
starseed mason
pux mason
Timbo connected to Drury
Drury connected to Timbo
Oling

So of the five possible votes 2 are linked sets. One of the sets is likely scum as who becomes scum if oling flips scum. R athji?? HG?? Dont see how it works.

My preference to dig into today is Timbo. I am driving to saskatoon for the weekend so won't be able to post much after lunch until this evening.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:35 AM   #4222
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How would you have been able to do that with Squiggs96 being lynched?

You removed your vote before the kill and the tides had already shifted where Squiggs96 was now the most likely to be lynched.

Ha, another lie. Yep, I'm good guys. Call it a day, lynch me, lynch Starseed, win game.
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Oling's list still makes sense. Squiggs, Girly and Aeneas. Looking back on girly's posts, I think she was trying to set herself up as the sacrificial lamb. Having squiggs come out and kill girly could potentially be a way to establish credibility which would be crucial in late game.

No strong feelings yet, but I think the Aeneas vote is our best bet. I am ready to vote. I will wait a couple of hours for Aeneas to make his final bow.

The sword of Damocles is now over your head, my friend.
After the day kill, and while the town was targeting Aeneas. I felt that if it wasn't squiggs, it had to be you again. Especially having so forcefully led the charge against squiggs.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:37 AM   #4223
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Oling what are your thoughts around the way pux was revealed under threat of the Day kill.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:38 AM   #4224
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Confirmed town
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HG
Rathji

Not voting for likely town
squiggs
diss

Considerations for vote
starseed mason
pux mason
Timbo connected to Drury
Drury connected to Timbo
Oling

So of the five possible votes 2 are linked sets. One of the sets is likely scum as who becomes scum if oling flips scum. R athji?? HG?? Dont see how it works.

My preference to dig into today is Timbo. I am driving to saskatoon for the weekend so won't be able to post much after lunch until this evening.
I feel like Timbo is more connected to Oling. I said to Puxlut yesterday that if Oling flips mafia, we go after Timbo. If he is town, we go after Squiggs.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:45 AM   #4225
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Oling what are your thoughts around the way pux was revealed under threat of the Day kill.
Like I said, everyone knew that Puxlut or Girlysports was going to claim MOT2. It was just a matter of which one.

If you avoid the voting for myself stuff right now and read my post there's too much to be coincidence with these guys.

Starseed picking Bizaro over Baxter/Aeneas when Squiggs post, he knew someone wa going to change the direction to one of the inactive posters and he did it himself to not leave it to chance.

Girlysports hammering early for Starseed to be on for the lynch/Twilight. The multiple times Girly supports Starseed.

Starseed's multiple lies, heck he even told us that the Twilight could be a mafia tool before he revealed that he was doing it!
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:46 AM   #4226
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Confirmed town
Ggg
HG
Rathji

Not voting for likely town
squiggs
diss

Considerations for vote
starseed mason
pux mason
Timbo connected to Drury
Drury connected to Timbo
Oling

So of the five possible votes 2 are linked sets. One of the sets is likely scum as who becomes scum if oling flips scum. R athji?? HG?? Dont see how it works.

My preference to dig into today is Timbo. I am driving to saskatoon for the weekend so won't be able to post much after lunch until this evening.
I will fix this list for you.

Town 100%
GGG
Diss he used his Doc on you
Timbo I used my Doc on you( I ID'ed two of the Scum in my post of opposing powers)
There was no night kill because YOU were the target. How does it feel to have your ass saved? Feels good right?

Heavy Town
Rathji
HG15
Drury (he saved my ass)

Most likely town
Squiggs

Unknown
Starseed
Puxlut
Oling
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:49 AM   #4227
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Timbo did you bucket GGG as well?
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:50 AM   #4228
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I feel like Timbo is more connected to Oling. I said to Puxlut yesterday that if Oling flips mafia, we go after Timbo. If he is town, we go after Squiggs.
How does the squiggs as scum play out.

Before Girly is dead we are all afraid to lynch her. She is going to be the person we lynch on lynch or die day. We are sitting at 8-4. So squiggs sacrfices girly putting them at 8-3. Then we lynch Aneas to go to 8-2.

Instead squiggs kills Oling who could flip town we kill squiggs.

Its now 7-3 going into the night phase or kill Diss who has the doctor and vote powers if he is going down. Coming out at 6-3 instead of 7-2 with one person still hidded (squiggs, girly, aneaes, ???) is better than having Girly and Aneaes dead.

On the other hand squiggs kills Girly, campaigns for Olings Death, and they end at 6-3 with squiggs embedded as town. That would not be a bad deal for the scum.
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:52 AM   #4229
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Timbo did you bucket GGG as well?
No I bucketed Puxlut and got nada
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Squiggs maybe I missed it, but why did you decided to kill Girly over Oling?
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:57 AM   #4231
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I will fix this list for you.

Town 100%
GGG
Diss he used his Doc on you
Timbo I used my Doc on you( I ID'ed two of the Scum in my post of opposing powers)
There was no night kill because YOU were the target. How does it feel to have your ass saved? Feels good right?

Heavy Town
Rathji
HG15
Drury (he saved my ass)

Most likely town
Squiggs

Unknown
Starseed
Puxlut
Oling
I am starting to think I am actually unkillable. Thats 5 deaths and counting for me. ECF, Form, Lycnh,Lynch, Doc Save.

The answer to the above list is lynch Starseed or Pux, gain a confrimed townie. I am just not convinced they are scum which leaves Oling as scum and someone else.

Or Oling Scum, Starseed and Pux eternal guardian recruites win when everyone has joined a cult.

or Timbo, we can always lynch Timbo.

Vote Starseed

To many lies and inconsistancies, one death confrims Pux, we don't need twilight, and I am starting to worry about cults again. (Now that we don't have to kill scum today we have this luxury)
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Old 10-30-2014, 07:58 AM   #4232
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How does the squiggs as scum play out.

Before Girly is dead we are all afraid to lynch her. She is going to be the person we lynch on lynch or die day. We are sitting at 8-4. So squiggs sacrfices girly putting them at 8-3. Then we lynch Aneas to go to 8-2.

Instead squiggs kills Oling who could flip town we kill squiggs.

Its now 7-3 going into the night phase or kill Diss who has the doctor and vote powers if he is going down. Coming out at 6-3 instead of 7-2 with one person still hidded (squiggs, girly, aneaes, ???) is better than having Girly and Aneaes dead.

On the other hand squiggs kills Girly, campaigns for Olings Death, and they end at 6-3 with squiggs embedded as town. That would not be a bad deal for the scum.
Oling would have left us stating that he still thought Squiggs could be mafia after the day kill. Squiggs went against the Aeneas lynch and targeted Oling. Squiggs could have used the GS kill to gain credibility, and send the town after pux and I, or Oling/timbo.

However, I think the most likely scenario is Oling is mafia, as I think the day kill credibility play would be too risky when no darkness players had been flipped at that point. I was even starting to have doubts that there were more than a couple of darkness players, or that the cult leaders were the darkness. The GS kill was huge for the town.
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:00 AM   #4233
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My distrust of starseed is well documented.
Vote starseed
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:10 AM   #4234
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It's not a trick or a bluff, I'm perfectly fine being lynched.

I also have followed Drury18 and Rathji and neither did anything at night. So pretty good indication they are town.

Not many people left for me to investigate.
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:21 AM   #4235
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The feather in Olings cap IMO is that Aeneas flipped as a Watcher.
I think also having a tracker in scum would be to much of a redundancy.
I could be wrong but...
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:35 AM   #4236
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Confirmed town
Ggg
HG
Rathji

Not voting for likely town
squiggs
diss

Considerations for vote
starseed mason
pux mason
Timbo connected to Drury
Drury connected to Timbo
Oling

So of the five possible votes 2 are linked sets. One of the sets is likely scum as who becomes scum if oling flips scum. R athji?? HG?? Dont see how it works.

My preference to dig into today is Timbo. I am driving to saskatoon for the weekend so won't be able to post much after lunch until this evening.
Haven't finished catching up on thread, but Drury's power needs to be town. That kind of power in the hands of the Mafia would be seriously screwed up. I would say that it is pretty much just as likely as me being town (based on power alone)
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Old 10-30-2014, 08:37 AM   #4237
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It's not a trick or a bluff, I'm perfectly fine being lynched.

I also have followed Drury18 and Rathji and neither did anything at night. So pretty good indication they are town.

Not many people left for me to investigate.
Even if it isnt a trick or bluff, it isnt the best way to prove that Starseed/Pux are actually Mason/Town.

Killing one of them is much better.
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Even if it isnt a trick or bluff, it isnt the best way to prove that Starseed/Pux are actually Mason/Town.

Killing one of them is much better.
Starseed/Pux, what are your thoughts on this?
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Starseed/Pux, what are your thoughts on this?
If we take out one of us, we lose the extra vote. However, it is likely that our days are numbered anyway, so it probably doesn't matter. I am reasonably confident in Oling being mafia. I think he didn't immediately go after formulate because the serial killer could help them cut down the town's numbers in the early days, but when it got a bit later in the game, the danger of him hitting mafia was getting bigger, so they took him out.

I think if the town needs to kill one of us, then it should be me because of the Guardians thing. I am worried about there being a majority of Guardians, and triggering a cult victory. The numbers would then go to 4-3 if someone accepts an eternal invite today.

Take out Oling tomorrow.
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If we take out one of us, we lose the extra vote. However, it is likely that our days are numbered anyway, so it probably doesn't matter. I am reasonably confident in Oling being mafia. I think he didn't immediately go after formulate because the serial killer could help them cut down the town's numbers in the early days, but when it got a bit later in the game, the danger of him hitting mafia was getting bigger, so they took him out.

I think if the town needs to kill one of us, then it should be me because of the Guardians thing. I am worried about there being a majority of Guardians, and triggering a cult victory. The numbers would then go to 4-3 if someone accepts an eternal invite today.

Take out Oling tomorrow.
Don't think we should accept anymore invites just in case the win condition for the eternal/guardian recruiter is have everyone left living join.

SQUIGGS CAN YOU CLEARLY VERIFY THAT THE KILL YOU USED WAS FROM THE ETERNALS

Having working eternals powers means that the recruiters are not scum but a third party. If squiggs got his power from talking funny then the recruiters could still be scum.
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