Ongoing Sci-Fi, Comic Book Movie Thread v2

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by pseudoreality

I don't see why the world needs another Batman movie. There is nothing in there that looks original or interesting to me. So it might be good, but I will pass.

Pitch Meeting just did Batman (1989). One thing that stood out for me was how themed it was. It had such a gothic, comic book look, without being Adam West Batman campy. This new movie is trying to brand itself as artistic, but that is not what I am seeing in the trailers. The trailers just make it look like the run-of-the-mill gritty crime drama where the main character just happens to be Batman.

The world doesn't need a new Batman movie but DC and WB need to continue to make money while superhero movies are still bringing in big audiences. Sounds like this one for the most part will appeal to a person like me that has superhero fatigue because it's more akin to the Joker than a lot of Marvel stuff tailored more to young audiences.

[blankall]

I could watch endless new Batman films, as long as they are good. A good movie is a good movie. There's so much to work with Batman and so many different takes, that I really don't see the problem with frequent reboots.

And yes, no need to force joy into Batman's character. That hasn't worked since Adam West.

[pseudoreality]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The world doesn't need a new Batman movie but DC and WB need to continue to make money while superhero movies are still bringing in big audiences. Sounds like this one for the most part will appeal to a person like me that has superhero fatigue because it's more akin to the Joker than a lot of Marvel stuff tailored more to young audiences.

I guess my superhero fatigue has extended to all versions of superhero movies, whether they be campy, funny, or gritty. Actually, I find gritty gets old the quickest, while humour and action can reinvent themselves.

If you want to make a gritty movie, why even put comic book characters in there?

Maybe I am just not into gritty movies. I mean if some studio wanted to remake the Goonies into a hard R-rated movie by throwing in some child rape, I'd probably give it a hard pass.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by blankall

And yes, no need to force joy into Batman's character. That hasn't worked since Adam West.

not true, this is at least on par with a good Batusi

[djsFlames]

Put me in the Nolan camp (but only his).

I watched the old show as a kid but always found it just a stupid fun way to pass the time until something I liked better came on.

Nolan changed my attitude towards Batman. So I too could watch endless Batman films, IF give the Nolan treatment.

Loved that take on the character and mythos. Was dark buit without going too far down that path. You always had some cheeky moments from Bale or Freeman to keep things afloat from a mood standpoint. Visually engaging and always had high stakes (and thankfully wasn't afraid to kill off characters).

The more recent interpretation was awful. But we'll see how this one goes.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Put me in the Nolan camp (but only his).

I watched the old show as a kid but always found it just a stupid fun way to pass the time until something I liked better came on.

Nolan changed my attitude towards Batman. So I too could watch endless Batman films, IF give the Nolan treatment.

Loved that take on the character and mythos. Was dark buit without going too far down that path. You always had some cheeky moments from Bale or Freeman to keep things afloat from a mood standpoint. Visually engaging and always had high stakes (and thankfully wasn't afraid to kill off characters).

The more recent interpretation was awful. But we'll see how this one goes.

I largely agree right up to the end there. The problem with Batfleck wasnt even Affleck or his portrayal but rather that there really wasnt anything for him to do.

He just got lost in the shuffle of too many characters and too much crazy stuff going on. He was barely even a part of it.

Even 'Batman vs. Superman' he was basically a side-piece.

[KTrain]

Originally Posted by pseudoreality

I don't see why the world needs another Batman movie. There is nothing in there that looks original or interesting to me. So it might be good, but I will pass.

Pitch Meeting just did Batman (1989). One thing that stood out for me was how themed it was. It had such a gothic, comic book look, without being Adam West Batman campy. This new movie is trying to brand itself as artistic, but that is not what I am seeing in the trailers. The trailers just make it look like the run-of-the-mill gritty crime drama where the main character just happens to be Batman.

There are thousands of Batman comics. Stories have been rehashed and retconned dozens of times. Batman in hundreds of different settings, over different times. Should they stop writing Batman comics?

If there are stories to tell, why not make movies and TV shows about them?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

not true, this is at least on par with a good Batusi

As much as people joke about this, the last two sequels also ruined the amazing world that Tim Burton built.

https://batmanfanon.fandom.com/wiki/...es_(Batman_III)

Robin Williams as the Riddler could have been amazing.

WB and McDonalds conspiring to destroy Tim Burton's vision makes the whole thing sit even worse.

[Nadal Fan]

The Batman was so epic. 3hrs long and I felt I could have Watched for 4hrs and still be invested in the characters and the world they created. I also loved how they set up some villains for the next one.

Spoiler!

Hush, Court of Owls, Joker all could be in the next one)

It really felt like a detective and noir story. I feel like this is going to be a huge hit with audiences.

[OutOfTheCube]

To be fair, it would’ve only been a shock if your personal review of it was any less than glowing. We all saw that one coming :P

[djsFlames]

Lifelong fans will always see it through rose-coloured glasses.

Initial reactions are typically skewed in one way or the other.

It's after second/third viewings in the weeks to follow when people actually settle on how they feel about a film.

See: any blockbuster ever.

[DownInFlames]

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[Yamer]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

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Dogs: Enjoy existentialism, suckers.

[djsFlames]

No reviews here. That bad eh?

[Finger Cookin]

[Nadal Fan]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

No reviews here. That bad eh?

My favorite part was when Ben Affleck and Christian Bale came out of a portal.

[Finger Cookin]

Except if this somehow made it on to film, you know it would be Kilmer and Clooney.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Nadal Fan

My favorite part was when Ben Affleck and Christian Bale came out of a portal.

Lol. I hate that this works too because it would get my ass to the theatre so fast.

Damn you multiverse nostalgia gimmicks.

[Cole436]

Just watched it

Spoiler!

Overall really good. I feel it was simultaneously the most comic accurate and grounded Batman movie. You can tell the creators are big fans of BTAS and the Telltale games.

I thought the Year 2 world was gripping, and I could watch Batman fighting against the mob all day. The art direction and use of shadows was really stunning. I felt the opening 15 minutes use of tension and fear were masterful. This movie has a lot more in common with Zodiac or Se7en than anything.

I really enjoyed Robert Pattinson’s take on Bruce Wayne. Bruce being an isolated, nearly psychotic, loner is very in line with where Batman would be at this stage of his life. I felt that his arc was well written and emotionally hit the right beats. This was an origin story for Batman in a non-traditional sense, as he evolves from being an agent of “vengeance” to one of “hope”.

Paul Dano had too little screen time, but what was there was mesmerising. The interrogation scene was a masterclass of acting.

Colin Farrell’s turn as Penguin was brilliant. He was hilarious and stole most scenes he was in.

The rest of the cast was on their A game. John Turturro and Zoe Kravitz were great. Jeffery Wright was good but I always feel he’s overacting and I can’t take him seriously.

There were some negatives. The movie was way too long. They should have cut this down by 30 or so minutes because 3 hours was too much.

Also I felt some of the movie was a Dark Knight remix in spots. Specifically the villain intending to get caught to further his plan and the interrogation scene. It took a bit away from how unique the rest of the film was.

Overall a solid 8.5/10

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I also just saw the long awaited sequel to Seven. I enjoyed it so much, I started a new thread.