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Old 09-25-2023, 04:07 PM   #401
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This list is strange. I would not compare backlund to either of Larionov or Stempniak, but for opposite reasons.
I think the point though is that comparables are (for the most part) third line centers (Larionov probably being the best one in my history - don't know about how he compares to pre-80s #3Cs). Some of them less awesome than others, but most of them are/were #3Cs for the majority of their career in the NHL.

(Caveat #1: I say most of them, because I haven't bothered trying to find depth charts for these guys from when they played and from the myriad of teams that would involve. I just recognize a lot of third lines centers in that list.)

(Caveat#2: Larionov was the #3C in Detwah behind Yzerman and Federov - when Bowman wasn't stacking the top line. But it's kind of like saying Draisaitl is a #2C because he plays 50% of the time on the second line behind McDavid, and 50% of the time on the first line with McDavid. I would argue though that Larionov does not equal Draisaitl in both a good and bad way. Good in that Igor was a defensive MONSTER, bad in that he was nowhere near as good at putting up points. This is why I said above that he's probably the single best "#3C" in my lifetime.)
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Agreed, and I didn't know what topic to post this in, but I saw this prediction for next season so what a good segway to post it.

First, 8 slides explaining how the model is calculated in detail.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxnpYbdA...RlODBiNWFlZA==

And the season predictions...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxlDzJSA...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Predicts 49.2 wins - 22.0 losses - 10.8 OT losses for a total of 109.2 points and 1st in the West. 98.6% playoff probability.

So analytical models agree they are a playoff team, and supposedly a pretty good one.
If Markstrom returns to form and they get goaltending I don't see how anyone can look at this roster and not see a playoff team. I think they have a legit shot at 1st in the Pacific.
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If Markstrom returns to form and they get goaltending I don't see how anyone can look at this roster and not see a playoff team. I think they have a legit shot at 1st in the Pacific.
I think a bunch of the league media are sleeping on the Flames because of this fact.
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VAN and SEA ahead of both LAK and VGS is... bold
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:12 PM   #405
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I think a bunch of the league media are sleeping on the Flames because of this fact they are a bunch of fan boys .
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Yeah, that's a weird list of comparables for Backlund, but Thomas Steen is the PERFECT comparable.
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:14 PM   #407
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It is the natural Flames cycle. Media hype = bad season. Low expectations = good season.
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Old 09-25-2023, 04:15 PM   #408
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It is the natural Flames cycle. Media hype = bad season. Low expectations = good season.
Yes, very true. The one consistent is : No playoff Run.

Hopefully somehow, someway that can change.
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VAN and SEA ahead of both LAK and VGS is... bold
I agree about Vegas but I am not sold on LA. I think they lost that PLD trade, their Blueline got worse, and they have very sketchy goaltending. I think Vegas, Edmonton (is no good), and Calgary are the top 3 in the Pacific. After that it is a crap shoot with the exception of SJ.
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I agree about Vegas but I am not sold on LA. I think they lost that PLD trade, their Blueline got worse, and they have very sketchy goaltending. I think Vegas, Edmonton (is no good), and Calgary are the top 3 in the Pacific. After that it is a crap shoot with the exception of SJ.
I would not be surprised to see VGK struggle after a long season last year.
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I would not be surprised to see VGK struggle after a long season last year.
Sure, I can see that. I am just not sold on LA.
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