09-25-2023, 10:36 AM
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#381
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sask (sorry)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
fyi, preseason game had "A's" on Tanev, Lindholm and Huberdeau
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Wonder if Andersson gets a nod for the away game, and obviously Backs didn't play.
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09-25-2023, 10:52 AM
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#382
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I have no idea what this has to do with comparing him offensively to Johansen or where he slots in a teams lineup. I think it's great Backlund does lots of charity work.
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Wasn't clear it was a joke?
You have that Backlund pissed in my cornflakes reaction to the player and signing him for three days.
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09-25-2023, 11:05 AM
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#383
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Wasn't clear it was a joke?
You have that Backlund pissed in my cornflakes reaction to the player and signing him for three days.
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Sorry, I didn't get the joke. I just don't think signing Backlund for big money over 3 years is a good move for this team given its cap situation and future contracts to be done. I actually like Backlund, I just think it's time to move on.
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09-25-2023, 11:09 AM
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#384
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Sorry, I didn't get the joke. I just don't think signing Backlund for big money over 3 years is a good move for this team given its cap situation and future contracts to be done. I actually like Backlund, I just think it's time to move on.
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No need to apologize ... but the joke itself certainly points to you coming across pretty much exactly opposite to a person that likes Backlund.
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09-25-2023, 11:38 AM
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#385
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Powerplay Quarterback
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People seem to forget how hard it was for this team to find competent centers. While age is a factor, they need Backlund or someone similar and you pay through the nose to get it/keep it for such a critical position.
Otherwise, what you get is Ben Street centering Iginla and Tanguay.
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09-25-2023, 11:42 AM
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#386
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by sketchyt
Otherwise, what you get is Ben Street centering Iginla and Tanguay.
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Um, no...
Flames have Lindholm, who is the center in that reference
They also have Kadri.
Backlund is the 3rd line center,
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09-25-2023, 11:47 AM
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#387
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Franchise Player
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Yeah, if the Flames didn't have Kadri then a Backlund signing is much more palatable. No point in re-signing Backlund if Lindholm goes either.
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09-25-2023, 11:48 AM
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#388
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Um, no...
Flames have Lindholm, who is the center in that reference
They also have Kadri.
Backlund is the 3rd line center,
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which is a very good thing
replace Backlund with Ruzicka or Jones, and suddenly it looks iffy for the playoffs
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09-25-2023, 11:52 AM
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#389
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
which is a very good thing
replace Backlund with Ruzicka or Jones, and suddenly it looks iffy for the playoffs
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Key question is are the Flames a playoff team, or are they a bubble team?
If they are a contender, then yes Backlund is a key piece.
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09-25-2023, 11:59 AM
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#390
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Franchise Player
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with Backlund (and Lindholm) they are a playoff team.
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09-25-2023, 12:00 PM
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#391
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CALGARY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
with Backlund (and Lindholm) they are a playoff team.
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Maybe, this is a team that has made the playoffs 1/3 years and lost a lot of talent. Bubble I would say as mentioned earlier.
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09-25-2023, 12:05 PM
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#392
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
with Backlund (and Lindholm) they are a playoff team.
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Could be, so many players had off or really poor season, hard to imagine that would occurring again.
I would not identify the Flames as contenders, however.
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09-25-2023, 12:38 PM
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#393
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Key question is are the Flames a playoff team, or are they a bubble team?
If they are a contender, then yes Backlund is a key piece.
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I think this is legitimately a playoff team, and a Division contender.
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Originally Posted by redmile04
Maybe, this is a team that has made the playoffs 1/3 years and lost a lot of talent. Bubble I would say as mentioned earlier.
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I would say this is a team that has won the Division 2/3 of the last 82-game seasons and has replaced a lot of talent with similar players.
In an absolutely dismal year with practically everything going wrong, this is essentially the same group that lost 17 OT/SO games, and missed the playoffs by two points.
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09-25-2023, 12:41 PM
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#394
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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I think if the Flames score more goals than they allow they'll have success.
If they allow more goals than they score, they will have less success.
I believe both the eye test and the analytics support this.
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09-25-2023, 02:01 PM
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#395
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Um, no...
Flames have Lindholm, who is the center in that reference
They also have Kadri.
Backlund is the 3rd line center,
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Um, that's kind of my point...
If you lose centers, you have to replace them.
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09-25-2023, 02:51 PM
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#397
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
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This list is strange. I would not compare backlund to either of Larionov or Stempniak, but for opposite reasons.
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09-25-2023, 03:06 PM
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#398
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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I just want Mikeal to re-sign and be named Captain so I can finally order that jersey. 
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09-25-2023, 03:57 PM
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#399
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FanIn80
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Dick Duff has skyrocketed to near the top of my best sports name of all time list lol
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09-25-2023, 04:05 PM
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#400
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
with Backlund (and Lindholm) they are a playoff team.
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Agreed, and I didn't know what topic to post this in, but I saw this prediction for next season so what a good segway to post it.
First, 8 slides explaining how the model is calculated in detail.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxnpYbdA...RlODBiNWFlZA==
And the season predictions...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxlDzJSA...RlODBiNWFlZA==
Predicts 49.2 wins - 22.0 losses - 10.8 OT losses for a total of 109.2 points and 1st in the West. 98.6% playoff probability.
So analytical models agree they are a playoff team, and supposedly a pretty good one.
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