[PGT] Flames 6, Bolts 3: The Never Ending PGT

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Your second sentence explains to me that I shouldn’t bother explaining it to you. It’s your perspective. You’re free to it. IMO you’re wrong.

No honestly i dont see how people could say he has no ego.

He 100% is very confident in his own abilities as coach.

He 100% is steadfast that his process and way of doing things is the best way to have success in the NHL.

He has high self esteem and self importance for sure...which is ego.

I'm not even saying it's a bad thing in his profession. I'd want my coach to have an ego and be a bit arrogant, if not you end up with Glen Gulutzan.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Dunno. Haven't given it any thought. But it's not as though, if you dislike Sutter, you naturally endorse the likes of Gully or Ward.

I do think there's a real generational gap in how people are perceiving this story. This site generally skews older and largely sees it as a non-factor. From what I've seen, the opposite has been true among the younger crowd.

Yes, and maybe that says something?

There may be a bit of wisdom with the older crowd in not getting so bent out of shape over something so trivial. There are bigger fish to fry and are more important issues with this team.

But with so many issues among younger people, what someone says in a short clip is the entire encapsulation of who they are as a person, and we need to vilify them for how it came across and how it may make somebody feel. Obviously, words can matter, but I think actions are far more important. Just because someone doesn't say the things that make you feel all warm and gushy inside doesn't mean they aren't trying to do you a favor and make you better.

I see this all the time when I teach this younger generation. If I offer criticism that is direct and honest, I get kids that shut down and get all pissed off at me because they've never learned how to handle an honest critique. Every criticism levied against them has been whitewashed or their failures have been explained away. If they've done an adequate job they are praised far beyond what they actually earned. So I've learned over time to soften the blow by finding something, anything, positive to say to start even if there's almost nothing positive to say. But what is glaring to me is just how sensitive this young generation is today. I've had students who I've bent over backwards giving extra time outside of the class to teach and mentor, and gave lots of extensions or considerations for their work, and yet because in the end I accurately evaluated their work to be fairly poor (despite all my extra help), they had the balls to accuse me of "rooting for them to fail". Why the hell would I bother with so much of my time and attention if I wanted you to fail? Wouldn't I just do nothing instead?

Anyway...the point is people need to chill the #### out. Sutter isn't a monster. He's not perfect, and definitely makes some questionable decisions at times, but at no point would I think he's "rooting for his players to fail" the way some of you seem to want to label him.

[keratosis]

In Suter we trust?

[TheScorpion]

I think the idea that Darryl is rooting for certain players to fail is an entirely fictitious construct.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Two worst teams in the league coming to town and some fans and media want the coach pumping tires

Do you ever learn?

Not a single person said he needs to pump tires.

You can be throw a little praise and not be deamining but that's his style.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by keratosis

In Suter we trust?

Gary or Ryan?

[dino7c]

Young people get outraged about nothing on social media!

More at 11

[midniteowl]

I'm beginning to wonder if Paulie Walnuts and Johnny Makarov are the same poster. Every time they posted something out in the left field and being called out they would come back either:


Makarov: I didn't think I need to say green text


Walnuts: It's a joke.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

No honestly i dont see how people could say he has no ego.

He 100% is very confident in his own abilities as coach.

He 100% is steadfast that his process and way of doing things is the best way to have success in the NHL.

He has high self esteem and self importance for sure...which is ego.

I'm not even saying it's a bad thing in his profession. I'd want my coach to have an ego and be a bit arrogant, if not you end up with Glen Gulutzan.

You looked up ego in the dictionary didn’t you? Be honest.

[PaperBagger'14]

Reading through this PGT should have been an enjoyable celebration.

We killed off a 4 min PK, Dube had a beauty snipe, Looch had a big fight and we beat the best team in the last 5 years AND we got to see a Tampa jersey on the ice.

The positives from this game have been heavily outweighed by the negatives in this thread and its a damn shame. Maybe it's me losing the intensity of my fandom but holy crap, to piss and moan after tonight's win is garbage.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Who wanted him back?

I talk to a lot of real fans and not an single person wanted him back.

Okay Kevin Lowe.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

No honestly i dont see how people could say he has no ego.

He 100% is very confident in his own abilities as coach.

He 100% is steadfast that his process and way of doing things is the best way to have success in the NHL.

He has high self esteem and self importance for sure...which is ego.

I'm not even saying it's a bad thing in his profession. I'd want my coach to have an ego and be a bit arrogant, if not you end up with Glen Gulutzan.

Do you remember after he fired Keenan and said there is 3 top coaches and 2 are coaching and he's the 3rd one or something like that.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Real fans = people that share the same opinion as Paulie.

Then nobody is a real fan because he is the one person I've seen who said systems don't matter in the NHL.

[dino7c]

Do you guys prefer coaches that think they suck lol

I hope Darryl thinks he is a top coach

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think the idea that Darryl is rooting for certain players to fail is an entirely fictitious construct.

100%

People thinking that Sutter might not be putting players or the team in the best position to succeed, doesnt mean that they think he is rooting for certain players to fail.

Sutter just believes that these undersized young forward prospects are not at a point in their development where they can help the team succeed on a consistent basis, that doesn't mean he is rooting for them to fail though.

The difference of opinion is that there are a lot of people that think in the NHL that you almost need this younger, ELC talent to succeed and that most teams that have won in a salary cap era (including Sutter's Kings teams) have relied on that u-22 talent to win.

To me thats actually the most frustrating part. Sutter didn't used to be this negative about young players. The 03-04 and 05-06 Flames were young teams. Both his Kings cup winning teams had a lot of U-23 talent.

Even in the media in the past when he was negative in the media it was always the teams veterans and the teams stars, never the younger players. This attitude with young players actually seems new to this stop in Calgary (which makes me think it's more a disagreement with Tre drafting smaller players but that's an assumption).

[Manhattanboy]

This is all about Huberdeau isn’t it?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Best game all season.

Hopefully they keep rolling Vladar and put Pelts on the 2nd line.

Funny how the team looks more faster and more energetic when young hungry players are inserted in the line up even if they are small.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I was watching he just picked up the paper and asked what # he is and read off stats and said he's 21.

Can't even bring himself to say he had a good game.

Darryl has a hard time being a good person.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

How about I thought he had a good game he's a young player with lots of work ahead of him but it was a good start.

Or is it a requirement for him to be a DB to everyone. And a few select people's just cheerlead his BS ON.

Toxic human coach and I'm genuinely worried about young players wanting to be here with this guy behind the bench. It's not like he's getting great results either.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No one is saying that giving him some praise after a good game wouldn't hurt.

There is a way you speak to people and Darryl Sutter clearly does not have that skill.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Ironic part about people defending Mr Negative and Toxic are the same people who jump into PGT to whine even before anyone has posted about people being negative and toxic.

The most negative and toxic person is the damn head coach.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Ugh I doubt he heard the head coach play his debut down while being asked these questions.

It's disturbing how Sutters negativity is praised and beloved yet when fans questions things it's thr end of the world and everyone is negative.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That's nice but you don't continue to embarrass players in public. This isn't his little farm it's a professional league and Darryl sutter represents the Flames.

Call them out in the room but doing it publicly all the time same players getting capped on is unprofessional.

Why get into coaching? Guys like him and Torts why are you in thr game of you get joy from being miserable and creating toxic cultures.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

They put up trash cans and locked him out and once he came in they left. A bunch of players openly called for him to be fired because of how negative he was. Justin Williams doesn't have a good thing to say about him despite winning a cup.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I think Salam Velji is an idiot as well but what the heck it is a totally reasonable question to ask after a 1st round pick makes his 6 minute debut.

You want to troll him today wasn't the day and he made the idiot in the room look like the adult.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Even when he says some nice words while also talking about his bizzare obsession with size he needed to take a dig at Matthew Phillips for no reason. Continue to crap on undersized young players and people think a top prospect isn't going to notice?

I would say as long as Sutter is here there is zero chance Coronato signs.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

All of sudden Wes Gilbertson and Darren Haynes are bums people that everyone loved but because they aren't waving thr Sutter pom poms they irrelevant now lol. Ok.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Who wanted him back?

I talk to a lot of real fans and not an single person wanted him back.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

It was a joke lol relax.

You guys called us out for not watching his presser and it seems you missed it.

Darryl talks to the reals fans. On his walks.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He keeps telling us about what the real fans want.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Not a single person said he needs to pump tires.

You can be throw a little praise and not be deamining but that's his style.

Every single post in this PGT is about Darryl Sutter and it's entirely negative. Every...single...post.

NoBoDy HaTeS dArRyL sUtTeR. This isn't an isolated situation.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

People get really, really personally offended by what other people post about on CP.

What’s interesting is how the content of other people’s posts has a profound effect on what I’m allowed to post. I wanted to post about the game but I can’t. I typed up this whole post referencing only on ice events and when I hit post reply it all got wiped out and replaced with Sutter talk. Very frustrating.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Blame the coach for being toxic and causing this.

Could easily been avoided if he could keep his ego in check.

Darryl is in charge of posts on CP?

Wow.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

You looked up ego in the dictionary didn’t you? Be honest.

I explained my point and considering you are saying he has no ego I thought it might be good to use the literal definition of ego in my response.

Your turn now though. Explain how he has no ego?