Some very disgusting posts in this thread. I assume none of you know anything about this other then what John Oliver told you?
The majority of the UK is NOT in fact racist. This is supposed to help them financially in the long term. They will have more independence with their economy and won't have to fork over millions of pounds just to be part of the EU. Money is always the biggest deciding factor and this was no different.
Oh and if it does turn out to royally suck for the UK, they can always go back...
The amount of ignorance in this thread is astounding.
Why the eff would Europe take back a whinging moaning bunch of idiots that have spent the last fifty years pissing and moaning about how bad the EU is?
There seems to be a lot of people using the rationale that because racists are anti-immigration, that anyone who doesn't support a fully open immigration policy must be racist. It's no different than people on the far right saying that all muslims are terrorists.
Immigration is a complex issue that has domino effects down almost every socio-economic aspect of governance.
I do find it somewhat ironic that many of the issues the EU is facing are similar to what the Soviet Union faced in regards to people from the poorer regions moving into wealthier areas and the ensuing ethnic tensions.
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This is crazy. I wasn't expecting the Leave vote to be this strong. 52% to 48% now
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How are these ####ing wackjobs (Farage/Trump) attracting so much support?
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It's like they voted for Trump.
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Peoples ability to vote against their own best interests baffles me.
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I can't believe they've done this.
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Just woke up. Feel completely crushed.
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I keep thinking of those millions of everyday joes in Britain, why would they do this to themselves?
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Can't believe they did it. There are a lot of bitter old people in that country.
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Leftists doing themselves a disservice blaming this vote on racists.
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But is the resistance to mass immigration to Europe simply about racism? Or are there concerns of overburdening social programs, health, welfare,etc.
No it's pretty simple...you are a racist for even questioning that.
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Here you go. Summary of it all. Phase 2, Trump.
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If I were a UK citizen, I would have probably voted to remain in the EU. But it's a far more nuanced issue than a lot of people want to admit. And smearing anyone you disagree with as an ignorant racist so you don't have to engage with them is a losing hand for progressives. A losing hand they seem compelled to play over and over again. It's storing up more and more resentment among the people who are struggling with globalization, and at some point the lid is going to blow right off. Actually, I think we're seeing it blow off right now.
Yeah, this is working out really well, guys. Let's just keep at it. They're all a bunch of out of touch old white xenophobic racists with no actual concerns that anyone needs to talk about or give any shred of credence to. Carry on.
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Here's the thing. Canada and the U.S. were set up from the get-go as immigrant nations. We've certainly had our own share of nativist jingoism and resistance to newcomers. But we've pretty much agreed with the premise that the country has been built by waves of people coming from other places.
I don't think he was acting that way... seems like a total non sequitur. That being said, you compared him to Kipling; personally I'd have just taken that as a compliment and moved on.
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Acting as if Canada and the U.S. and it's indigenous peoples had no history or identity prior to colonization is pretty damn...well colonialist.
The nations of Canada and the U.S. were set up on the premise of immigration. There were people here before that, but they weren't nations.
And I'm part native, so it was some of my ancestors who were here for thousands of years. Of course, they pushed some other peoples out of their turf in the New World to gain access to resources (or what was left after the megafauna were hunted to extinction). That's kinda the way humanity rolls, in every corner of the planet. Wave after wave after wave, displacing, conquering, assimilating.
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