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Old 04-24-2016, 09:41 PM   #401
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Because playoff hockey is a different game. Teams that give up goals get slaughtered
Hawks and Blues haven't exactly been locking it down
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Old 04-24-2016, 09:56 PM   #402
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6 games in

Dallas has allowed 17 goals
Chcago 16
St. Louis 18
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:02 PM   #403
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Because playoff hockey is a different game. Teams that give up goals get slaughtered
I just looked it up. The Stars kept the Wild in this series to (score-adjusted) 47.3 CA60, 22.8 SCA60, 11.1 HSCF60 ...

For some playoff run comparision,

How did the 2010 Blackhawks defend (since Niemi was their goalie, too)?
56.1 CA60, 24.4 SCA60, 10 HSCF60

How about the 2009 Penguins?
53 CA60, 25 SCA60, 10.5 HSCF60

How about the 2014 Kings?
53.4 CA60, 28.6 SCA60, 11.7 HSCF60

How about the 2015 Blackhawks?
53.3 CA60, 25.8 SCA60, 10.7 HSCF60

How about the 2009 WCF Blackhawks?
51.5 CA60, 24.2 SCA60, 9.9 HSCF60

How about the 2011 SCF Canucks?
52.3 CA60, 24.5 SCA60, 10.6 HSCF60


Obviously, yes the Stars need their goaltenders to play better than they have in select games (like the last two) and they need to avoid idiotic penalties like the Roussel one or inexperienced pinches like the Klingberg one today. But on a whole they did a decent job stifling the Wild. It's not as if they're defending like the 2015-16 Flames:
56.3 CA60, 28.4 SCA60, 12.3 HSCF60


They need to win just. one. more. series. Well unless they have championship aspirations but I don't care about that. I just want my pick.
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:09 PM   #404
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Except scoring isn't their issue. They scored 23 goals in 6 games. That should be enough to win any series, but when your goaltending and defensive work is so shoddy it lets in 3-4, its hard to close games out and win comfortably.
Hence why getting Seguin in and scoring even more goals helps them win!
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Old 04-24-2016, 10:11 PM   #405
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I just looked it up. The Stars kept the Wild in this series to (score-adjusted) 47.3 CA60, 22.8 SCA60, 11.1 HSCF60 ...

For some playoff run comparision,

How did the 2010 Blackhawks defend (since Niemi was their goalie, too)?
56.1 CA60, 24.4 SCA60, 10 HSCF60

How about the 2009 Penguins?
53 CA60, 25 SCA60, 10.5 HSCF60

How about the 2014 Kings?
53.4CA60, 28.6 SCA60, 11.7 HSCF60

How about the 2015 Blackhawks?
53.3CA60, 25.8 SCA60, 10.7 HSCF60

How about the 2009 WCF Blackhawks?
51.5CA60, 24.2 SCA60, 9.9 HSCF60

How about the 2011 SCF Canucks?
52.3CA60, 24.5 SCA60, 10.6 HSCF60


Obviously, yes the Stars need their goaltenders to play better than they have in select games (like the last two) and they need to avoid idiotic penalties like the Roussel one or inexperienced pinches like the Klingberg one today. But on a whole they did a decent job stifling the Wild. It's not as if they're defending like the 2015-16 Flames:
56.3CA60, 28.4 SCA60, 12.3 HSCF60


They need to win just. one. more. series. Well unless they have championship aspirations but I don't care about that. I just want my pick.
Those are fine numbers.... against the impotent wild without two of their best players. Remember how good they were limping into the playoffs.

All season long their defensive numbers were ok if you ignore GAA, which seems to be the biggest relay season predictor of playoff success. More than even wins/losses
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What is your definition of a slaughter...5 game loss?

because I will take that bet all day long...not saying Dallas will win for sure but at the very least its a series.

Hawks and Blues have been giving up a ton of goals too
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Either I don't watch enough basketball or I don't spend enough time on the Internet. I'm guessing it's the former.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:24 PM   #408
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Either I don't watch enough basketball or I don't spend enough time on the Internet. I'm guessing it's the former.
Nope, it would be the latter imo. It's an internet thing more than a basketball thing.
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5 at4

Dallas wins the series 4-2.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/stars-wild-game-six-1.3551006
http://sportsstats.cbc.ca/sports-scores/Hockey-Scores-Matchups.aspx
http://scores.nbcsports.com/nhl/recap.asp?g=2016042430&home=30&vis=9&final=true
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The Stars goaltending doesn't give me confidence that the Flames will be receiving a 1st round draft pick from them.
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The Stars goaltending doesn't give me confidence that the Flames will be receiving a 1st round draft pick from them.
Just the fact Dallas has home ice advantage, and a couple more days rest is reason for optimism.

These are great odds.

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I don't mind Dallas' chances against Chicago or St. Louis. Neither team is a juggernaut here. The WC team in the SCF will be from California, probably
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Stars will need Seguin back in the lineup to beat the Hawks (or Blues if lightning strikes) as without him they were just good enough to beat a very pedestrian Wild team but that won't be good enough to beat a real contender.
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