Federal Budget 2016: $29B Deficit

[OMG!WTF!]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I don't think he's saying it should be but it goes back to my point about capitalism being exploitative in essence. If you hire someone, you're not working in a relationship that's equally beneficial. Sure you're providing them with some benefits to work, for you but if it you weren't deriving more personal benefit than what you're expending then you wouldn't hire them. You can say it's based on value, but the value is also contingent on what makes you profitable.

I know right? I've always wondered why anyone would go through life as an employee. You have to pay 7% less tax than Murray Edwards and you get none of the benefits.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Keep deflecting/moving the goalposts. We're not talking about a guy who's spending a week in Canada visiting the sites, or someone who lacks the ability to pay his taxes. Yes or no, do you believe it's morally acceptable to spend the majority of the year living in a country and taking advantages of their services when you're not paying to do so, despite being more than capable of doing so?

if he were spending the majority of his time here, he would be paying taxes here

it's a pretty straight-forward rule that you might want to familiarize yourself with before debating the issue for 20 posts

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

I know right? I've always wondered why anyone would go through life as an employee. You have to pay 7% less tax than Murray Edwards and you get none of the benefits.

Cog life bruh.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

if he were spending the majority of his time here, he would be paying taxes here

it's a pretty straight-forward rule that you might want to familiarize yourself with before debating the issue for 20 posts

So is that a yes or a no?

[Cyclops]

Originally Posted by rubecube

a) I live in BC, so it affects me way less than someone living in Alberta
b) I'm a single dude with no kids and no aspirations of having any

I'm a pretty self-contained unit. The only thing I really receive in the way of state services is health care and public transit. Where Murray Edwards lives has next zero effect on me personally.

Where do State services end? Is maintaining infrastructure such as sewers, water services, access to clean water, maintain roadways, police and fire (not even calling for them but the protection they represent)....and so on.

Some of these are falling apart, is it going to be up to the citizens to pay to fix them while we continue to cut corporate tax because they threaten us with lay offs?

Thanks for hiring us though. But make sure to hold it over our heads as leverage so you can increase your profit.........

[Cyclops]

I'm with your thinking rubecube, I agree with what you are saying so far.

[rubecube]

Haha, I don't even know that I agree with what I'm saying but it's been great entertainment.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Where do State services end? Is maintaining infrastructure such as sewers, water services, access to clean water, maintain roadways, police and fire (not even calling for them but the protection they represent)....and so on.

Some of these are falling apart, is it going to be up to the citizens to pay to fix them while we continue to cut corporate tax because they threaten us with lay offs?

Thanks for hiring us though. But make sure to hold it over our heads as leverage so you can increase your profit.........

We can jack up the corporate tax rate to 45%! That'll show those evil corporations! Oh wait, no one will have jobs and no one will be able to pay for any infrastructure? Let's just borrow the money, someone else will pay for it.

Better yet, let's nationalize everything. The government will totally be able to run our economy the most efficient for all of us peons. Hooray!

[transplant99]

Just for clarification...

to be able to be considered as a resident in the UK, Edwards has to spend at least 6 months plus a day there.

Also some are saying its trivial the amount of money he is saving by doing this and to me its an indication of how out of touch socialists are.....i heard two different estimates as to how much in REAL dollars this saves him. the lowest amount was over 30 MILLION a year.

Doesnt matter how much money you may have...that kind of savings matters a whole bunch.

His philanthropic work hopefully will not be affected by his absence but if it is, another reason why the NDP policy is so batcrap insane.

[OMG!WTF!]

Yeah there's a strange sense of what these wealthy people pay. It's not millions over the course of a year or a lifetime. It's millions a month, 6 figures a day by the time I turn my computer on. I don't know about Edwards specifically, but guys like him pay for the services they and their dependents use in a lifetime in about three months of working tax.

If they made money selling our oil...we made our fair share in royalties. If they pay less tax because they earn money through a corporation, we've derived huge tax benefits from that corporation and it's income tax generation. All the personal corps and "contractors" bug me far more.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cyclops

It's kind of sad when we look at a company employing people as some sort of favor.

Thanks for that! Its been a heavy thread so a little bit of humour is always appreciated.

[Enoch Root]

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[Locke]

Man oh man, been having a lot of clients coming in today who are going to be dramatically affected by these changes.

Single income Families with multiple kids are really taking this one in the teeth.

[Resolute 14]

So in Trudeau's world, stay at home parents are worthless?

[puckedoff]

He is following through on his plan to make impoverished people middle class. Except instead of raising up the poor, his is kicking the middle class downward.

[afc wimbledon]

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[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

So in Trudeau's world, stay at home parents are worthless?

Naw, they all have multiple taxpayer funded nannies so it's all good.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

So in Trudeau's world, stay at home parents are worthless?

Definitely.. a stay at home parent is one less worker, one less salary, one less income tax receipt...

[AcGold]

Don't remember 29 billion being in his shampoo/campaign commercials.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

the mental gymnastics required to be a good socialist are astounding

Ya, having a conscience sucks . It's just easier to have a " #### everyone else I come first " conservative attitude.

It is easy to be selfish but to actually think about others is taxing (no pun intended)and outside of our natural train of thought.

I'm not really suprised either by comments like this on the siteanymore. Where socilists are the devil and conservitive talking point one liners like this draw the majority of support.

I understand the area thus site draws the most support from and respect your views but throwing out beinfg a socially resposible person is being a terrible person is just filled with irony. If socialism was really such an evil ideology we would be the ones cutting funding to vital social programs that effect our healthcare, education, public services. We are infact asking the complete oppisite and asking for more compassion.

Socialist arejust so damn evil. You should always have a priest on hand to perform emergency exorsists.