New poll: Harper - Conservatives headed for third place next election?

[Antithesis]

I really wish the Liberals had chosen Garneau as their leader instead of Trudeau.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

I really wish the Liberals had chosen Garneau as their leader instead of Trudeau.

Yup. I would totally vote for a spaceman Prime Minister.

[Antithesis]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yup. I would totally vote for a spaceman Prime Minister.

As opposed to someone who may be a space cadet?

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

As opposed to someone who may be a space cadet?

Yes, we've already had too many of those.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

So all liberals are now unable to say anything because of attack ads 10 years ago?

I'm talking about you specifically. Your post was ridiculous fearmongering garbage. If your best defense is "other people who think you like also acted like this before" perhaps it's time to rethink your position.

It's only "ridiculous fearmongering garbage" because you disagree. All I can do is once again point out that you do not hold a moral high ground. And I am talking about you specifically. Your rebuttal was vapid, self-serving and a waste of the ones and zeros required to store it in Calgarypuck's database.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yup. I would totally vote for a spaceman Prime Minister.

That's Dr Spaceman

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

It's only "ridiculous fearmongering garbage" because you disagree. All I can do is once again point out that you do not hold a moral high ground. And I am talking about you specifically. Your rebuttal was vapid, self-serving and a waste of the ones and zeros required to store it in Calgarypuck's database.

Oooh vapid. Nice word. This coming from the guy who called Trudeau a pretty boy, like a high school girl trying to insult people based on looks. You offered nothing of substance except a catty remark about him being pretty, suggesting what, he's dumb? I dont even know. Oh and lets not forget the assertion he has handlers pulling his strings, so god only knows what the true masters want! Better be real scared of this guy and his shadow government.

Trash post and then you have the nerve to say that what I posted was vapid. Yikes.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

It's only "ridiculous fearmongering garbage" because you disagree. All I can do is once again point out that you do not hold a moral high ground. And I am talking about you specifically. Your rebuttal was vapid, self-serving and a waste of the ones and zeros required to store it in Calgarypuck's database.

Do you vote for the party with the moral high ground?

I don't get it.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Do you vote for the party with the moral high ground?

I don't get it.

No, I don't. Mostly because I don't pretend that my side (or any side, for that matter) is made up of perfect, honest little civil servants with only my best interest in mind. But I will laugh at people who behave as if their side is.

Alternatively, Resurrection is getting so pouty because Harper kicked his dog once or something.

[Rerun]

I surmise that in the next federal election the majority of voters will follow this mantra:

Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

Harper makes people uneasy sometimes but an inexperienced Trudeau frightens them.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

No, I don't. Mostly because I don't pretend that my side (or any side, for that matter) is made up of perfect, honest little civil servants with only my best interest in mind. But I will laugh at people who behave as if their side is.

Alternatively, Resurrection is getting so pouty because Harper kicked his dog once or something.

So then why do you keep bringing up the moral high ground?

You're just slinging mud about who else is down in the gutter with you.

The constant references to Trudeau's attractiveness is weird in it's own right, but the puppeteer stuff is straight up conspiracy babble.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I surmise that in the next federal election the majority of voters will follow this mantra:

Better the devil you know than the one you don't.

Harper makes people uneasy sometimes but an inexperienced Trudeau frightens them.

How long did it take to ask all of Canada for its opinions about Harper and Trudeau?

I kid, but I actually don't know if I see much evidence that voters are "scared" of Trudeau. I do think he has (after holding a significant advantage for most of the year) opened the door to Harper a little by showing himself to be a bit weak on foreign policy.

This will be an interesting election cycle, but we should keep in mind that the battleground will not be suburban Calgary, but suburban Toronto and rural Ontario, and areas like that. It's pretty hard in Calgary to get a sense of the mood on the street where it really matters.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Harper makes people uneasy sometimes but an inexperienced Trudeau frightens them.

That depends on the circles you travel in, I suspect.

Harper makes plenty of people uneasy all the time, and he has already frightened them with his experience.

The whole science denial/silencing thing should be enough to scare everyone.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

So then why do you keep bringing up the moral high ground?

Because people like Resurrection act as if they occupy it.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Here's a question: I think we all know a CPC minority win is the equivalent of a loss for them as the other parties can (and will) block everything they try. So is Harper done at that point? Or are the next wave of guys simply too weak to replace Harper?

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

suggesting what, he's dumb?

Not sure that dumb is the right word but he's certainly good at saying stupid things.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Because people like Resurrection act as if they occupy it.

What? lol. Example??

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

How long did it take to ask all of Canada for its opinions about Harper and Trudeau?

No time at all... that's why I said surmise.

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I kid, but I actually don't know if I see much evidence that voters are "scared" of Trudeau. I do think he has (after holding a significant advantage for most of the year) opened the door to Harper a little by showing himself to be a bit weak on foreign policy.

This will be an interesting election cycle, but we should keep in mind that the battleground will not be suburban Calgary, but suburban Toronto and rural Ontario, and areas like that. It's pretty hard in Calgary to get a sense of the mood on the street where it really matters.

Frightened may have been a poor choice of words on my part. Perhaps "uncomfortable" would have been better. When Trudeau tends to shoot from the hip he often ends up with his foot in his mouth.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Here's a question: I think we all know a CPC minority win is the equivalent of a loss for them as the other parties can (and will) block everything they try. So is Harper done at that point? Or are the next wave of guys simply too weak to replace Harper?

The other parties could block, but would they be wise to try? Last time they went down that road, Canadians weren't terribly impressed and gave Harper a majority. If the opposition parties were to try and gang up again, they risk repeating history.

And that may answer the first question. Would Harper be done? Quite possibly. But probably not immediately. As in, I don't think he would resign as leader on election night if reduced to a minority, but internal party discussions would probably start to focus on succession plans. But if the opposition parties were to try and force policy, I think the Conservatives would likely stick with the established leader knowing that another election would be coming quick.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Resurrection

What? lol. Example??

Every post you've made here in the last 36 hours or so. probably every post you have ever made on a political topic. The only times I notice you are when you are trying to smugly tell people they are wrong because you say so.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Every post you've made here in the last 36 hours or so. probably every post you have ever made on a political topic. The only times I notice you are when you are trying to smugly tell people they are wrong because you say so.

Ya I thought so. Swing and a miss.