[GT] Stars @ Flames

[J epworth]

I think it's time for everyone to sit back, relax, crack open another beer and try to enjoy the third period.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

The only thing he's doing wrong right now is when he gets a puck in good ice he's not being decisive enough. Benching or demoting him isn't going to help that I don't think. Just need some patience.

I agree.
When he played two seasons ago on an emergency basis, people thinks he will become a goal scoring machine and the fans expectations was so high. Suddenly the kid struggled and people are asking him to be demoted or even benching. Give the kid a break...he is struggling a bit and I am sure one of these days his confidence will come back and starts scoring again. Even players like Stamkos, Thornton and others struggled in their early season.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

Because we want him to eventually be good enough for the first line, not just good enough to hang around.

It's not about sticks and carrots, it's about helping him grow. He needs to get his confidence back by playing in games where he can make a difference, not by being coddled by Hartley.

Coddled? There's a lot of players I'd put on the coddled list before 47.

[Fan in Exile]

Okay, can't get the game here but when I look at the stats sheet, I see Backlund has only played 8 shifts, has 4 hits, 2 blocked shots, 4-1 on faceoffs. Colbourne has 17 shifts, 3 hits, 1 blocked shot, 1 takeaway, 1 giveaway. 4-11 in the faceoff circle. Neither have a shot on goal but Backlund doesn't have the cream of the crop for linemates either. How did Colbourne win Backlund's spot again?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

Have you considered the possibility that his confidence has been shattered by not being ready to fully play his game in the NHL rather than by bad coaching/management?

He was playing just fine until his first bull#### benching ... so no.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

It sends a horrible message to drop a guy doing so much well to the AHL, if they hadn't been so harsh on him earlier this year I doubt we'd be having this conversation at all.

doing so much well? not sure I agree on that one

[combustiblefuel]

Double post

[Igster]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

It may because we kinda excepted this play from colborne. Sven is his own undoing because of his performance in his emergency call up.

Nope. Don't buy it. Not fair. Colborne needs to be better as well and that's never going to happen because he doesn't have the hands. Sven again is getting the shaft here.

Regardless, my money is on Sven overall.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

It may because we kinda excepted this play from colborne. Sven is his own undoing because of his performance in his emergency call up.

Sven was playing very well at the start of the season, then fails to put up points in a few games, and gets benched.

It was never a lack of effort that caused him to dry up offensively. He had a lot of bad luck.

Now the benchings have just made things worse by killing his confidence. I know a lot of you are saying "he's in the NHL... man up". That's just not how hockey works. Even the best goal scorer have confidence issues. Remember when Iggy didn't score in 7 straight games the last time he scored 50 goals? You fight the puck... nothing seems to go right. The last thing you need is a coach breathing down your neck and threatening to bench you.

[Flamefan1]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He's a big boy and supposedly an NHL player...you are either good enough to think the game at this level or your not. Might be time for a few games in the AHL

Obviously you are not watching the same game. Baertschi is creating more opportunities than most of the Flames. He just needs to realize that he has more scoring ability than most of his teammates.

[bubbsy]

i don't understand the fear to bench a kid after x number of games of poor play. coddling players becuase of where they were drafted doesn't get you positive development, just look at the oilers young guns.

Kadri was treated like a big boy by burke and the leafs since being drafted, and the kid manned up and did what he needed to, to get his game where it is today.

anyways... this has gotta be pay back for all the jeering and giggling done for the oilers and mact today.

[dino7c]

The point is Sven may benefit from time in the AHL....get tons of ice time, maybe some winning and some confidence. its not always a bad thing to go down to the A

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

i don't understand the fear to bench a kid after x number of games of poor play. coddling players becuase of where they were drafted doesn't get you positive development, just look at the oilers young guns.

Kadri was treated like a big boy by burke and the leafs since being drafted, and the kid manned up and did what he needed to, to get his game where it is today.

anyways... this has gotta be pay back for all the jeering and giggling done for the oilers and mact today.

Kadri never got his opportunity until Burke left, so this really can't be used as an example.

For all we know, this could be why Burke was fired.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Igster

Nope. Don't buy it. Not fair. Colborne needs to be better as well and that's never going to happen because he doesn't have the hands. Sven again is getting the shaft here.

Regardless, my money is on Sven overall.

Life's not fair . They don't want Sven to play like how he is. They expect him to be elite. Thus the different standards

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Then bench him again. If he can't handle the pressure then go back to the juniors.

You must be a great motivator.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Kadri never got his opportunity until Burke left, so this really can't be used as an example.

For all we know, this could be why Burke was fired.

That's quite the leap...

[Dx54]

This is a joke right?

[BigFlameDog]

So....had to pvr, should I bother or just watch some old snl?

[Henry Fool]

Well there is an actual well-functioning team where Bärtschi could find his confidence again. But we can't put him through the humiliation of sending him down because Jackman exists.

[zamler]

I really HATE the notion of benching Sven or sending him down. Let him play, let him make his mistakes and grow as an NHL player.