[Rumour] Kipper is Retiring

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by photon

Possibly only draft position, what's the possible point difference between Kipper taking the majority of starts and one of the others? What the the point swing between 6th and 1st?

The flip side is what benefit is there for Kipper to mentor a young goalie? Is it worth more than the possible shift in draft position?

Would Kipper be happy with 40 games if that's what they wanted to do?

The other possible upside is if one of the other goalies does step up, then you have the luxury of having a tradeable asset if/when Gillies does step in.

I think we're better off without him, as much as that hurts to admit. The whole team was terrible last season but he in particular was a weak spot. Based on his obvious lack of fitness training and the fact that he smokes like a chimney, I don't think I want him to mentor any of our young goalies.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by Mango

Regardless, you know what I mean.

I don't know what you mean. Someone posted in this thread that he had returned to Calgary and wanted his son to remain in school here, and that he was genuinely interested in staying a Calgarian and being part of the community. The point I was making is that he doesn't live in Calgary, so you can't really call him a Calgarian.

[trackercowe]

Really, we're now using him smoking as a detriment to the team?




Oh and Wideman is a smoker too, better trade him off immediately.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Exactly. Not to mention his obvious lack of professionalism regarding fitness and smoking. Or the .882 save % and 3.44 GAA last season. He was a great goalie back in the day but we won't miss a player that puts up those kinds of stats.

Worst post of the pre-season! you win!

[Mango]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

I don't know what you mean. Someone posted in this thread that he had returned to Calgary and wanted his son to remain in school here, and that he was genuinely interested in staying a Calgarian and being part of the community. The point I was making is that he doesn't live in Calgary, so you can't really call him a Calgarian.

I asked him at the end of the season what he liked most about Calgarian. He said, "I want my son to still go to school here. I like being part of the community."

I didn't ask him what community or town he lives in though. That's the point I was making.

[SuperMatt18]

Wonder how the last year of the contract is structured, maybe he gets a bonus on a certain date and they are holding off retirement until after that day.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Worst post of the pre-season! you win!

I am surprised that you would feel this way. I absolutely love Kiprusoff, but I absolutely loved Al McInnis back in the day, but that doesn't mean that I think he could do a job for us on the powerplay at his advanced age. There is a reason most players shut it down in their late thirties - age. Kirprusoff is old, and his age really showed last season. I mean, how else do you explain such poor stats?

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Really, we're now using him smoking as a detriment to the team?




Oh and Wideman is a smoker too, better trade him off immediately.

I'm surprised to read that Wideman is a smoker. I can't imagine he smokes very much as even five a day can really make you underperform. Frankly, I think that any NHLer that smokes is a disgrace to his profession. Can you make an argument that smoking makes you a better player? Of course not. Why would someone knowingly smoke when everyone knows that it can only hamper your ability to perform at the highest level?

[Resolute 14]

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

I'm surprised to read that Wideman is a smoker. I can't imagine he smokes very much as even five a day can really make you underperform. Frankly, I think that any NHLer that smokes is a disgrace to his profession. Can you make an argument that smoking makes you a better player? Of course not. Why would someone knowingly smoke when everyone knows that it can only hamper your ability to perform at the highest level?

Chill out Dr.Oz

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

I think we're better off without him, as much as that hurts to admit. The whole team was terrible last season but he in particular was a weak spot. Based on his obvious lack of fitness training and the fact that he smokes like a chimney, I don't think I want him to mentor any of our young goalies.

What does him smoking make a difference? Its not like he is going to force the youngsters to smoke.

Some young players drink, smoke and do other stuff. They are not choir boys.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

I'm surprised to read that Wideman is a smoker. I can't imagine he smokes very much as even five a day can really make you underperform. Frankly, I think that any NHLer that smokes is a disgrace to his profession. Can you make an argument that smoking makes you a better player? Of course not. Why would someone knowingly smoke when everyone knows that it can only hamper your ability to perform at the highest level?

You must be a blast at parties.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

What does him smoking make a difference? Its not like he is going to force the youngsters to smoke.

Some young players drink, smoke and do other stuff. They are not choir boys.

He smokes and has clearly struggled with fitness throughout his career with the Flames. I don't want a player that smokes and is lazy to be a mentor to our young goalies. I want a non-smoker who sets a good example in the gym. Not very many people are going to be able to get by on raw talent alone the way Kiprusoff has.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by fusebox

he smokes and has clearly struggled with fitness throughout his career with the flames. I don't want a player that smokes and is lazy to be a mentor to our young goalies. I want a non-smoker who sets a good example in the gym. Not very many people are going to be able to get by on raw talent alone the way kiprusoff has.

lol

[moon]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

He smokes and has clearly struggled with fitness throughout his career with the Flames. I don't want a player that smokes and is lazy to be a mentor to our young goalies. I want a non-smoker who sets a good example in the gym. Not very many people are going to be able to get by on raw talent alone the way Kiprusoff has.

Is it the insane amount of games (likely the most or top 5 from since the lockout for a goalie) that makes it so clear that he struggled with fitness? or the lack of injuries? the lack of a need to take games off perhaps is what made it so clear.

And nothing says lazy like a goalie consistently playing 70+ games and never complains. That lazy bum should be playing 82 games and asking to fill in on the farm when the Flames are off.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by moon

Is it the insane amount of games (likely the most or top 5 from since the lockout for a goalie) that makes it so clear that he struggled with fitness? or the lack of injuries? the lack of a need to take games off perhaps is what made it so clear.

And nothing says lazy like a goalie consistently playing 70+ games and never complains. That lazy bum should be playing 82 games and asking to fill in on the farm when the Flames are off.

Hey man, I totally agree. I think that if we had a proper back up that was able to carry the load, Kipper would be able to play for another five years. I think he's just burned out early due to being overplayed.

However, hitting the gym and laying off the cigarettes certainly wouldn't have hurt, you know what I'm saying?

[moon]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Hey man, I totally agree. I think that if we had a proper back up that was able to carry the load, Kipper would be able to play for another five years. I think he's just burned out early due to being overplayed.

However, hitting the gym and laying off the cigarettes certainly wouldn't have hurt, you know what I'm saying?

He is 36 years old and doesn't seemed burnt out at all. Plus I don't think that fitness or smoking had an effect on Kipper at all so not I don't know what you are saying.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

He smokes and has clearly struggled with fitness throughout his career with the Flames. I don't want a player that smokes and is lazy to be a mentor to our young goalies. I want a non-smoker who sets a good example in the gym. Not very many people are going to be able to get by on raw talent alone the way Kiprusoff has.

What?

Thats absolutely untrue.

[Fusebox]

Originally Posted by moon

He is 36 years old and doesn't seemed burnt out at all. Plus I don't think that fitness or smoking had an effect on Kipper at all so not I don't know what you are saying.

I think he looked very off the pace last season, wouldn't you agree? He posted the worst stats for a starting goalie in NHL history.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

Hey man, I totally agree. I think that if we had a proper back up that was able to carry the load, Kipper would be able to play for another five years. I think he's just burned out early due to being overplayed.

However, hitting the gym and laying off the cigarettes certainly wouldn't have hurt, you know what I'm saying?

How do you know Kiprusoff doesn't hit the gym and stay in shape?