The Official Fire Feaster Thread

[BACKCHECK!!!]

I've got tickets for the Fire Feaster Train, leaving from Poor Trade Returns Station, travelling via the most unbalanced roster ever assembled, and with stops at Left Wingers at Every Forward Position, and the Ryan O'Reilley Offer Sheet Fiasco. On weekends it connects through the Graveyard of 2nd String Goalies, and Unequivocal Statements That Are Shown To Be False. Please no smoking, no pets, and no defensive defencemen. Reduced fares available to players 5-foot-9 and under. Admission free for college students.

[OzSome]

I am not defending Jay Feaster but I've seen this fire sale happenned before while Risebrough was the GM. Fans and media pressuring him to trade Doug Gilmour. He ended up messing up trying to please everyone. We pretty much got nothing in return. Iginla's trade I think is pretty similar with fans and media keeps saying Trade Iginla stuff. Feaster made a bad move just trading him to 2 college players that we might not even see don the Flames jersey and a late first round pick. I and i know a lot of people are not happy with the return, and I am also not happy with the way he handled the Boston fiasco. Agreeing at noon with Boston then to come back later and using Iginla as an excuse is so unprofessional. Now everytime Iggy goes to Boston, he'll get booed because they might think that Iggy does not want to play for the Bruins. Why can't Feaster just tell Boston, yes we might have a deal but we are still waiting for the other team to make an offer. Chiarelli even says that Feaster did not give him access to talk to Iggy. Is it easier to tell Boston, Iggy's first choice is to play with Sidney but if he is not happy with the return, they can try to convince Iggy to change his mind. Maybe Boston ante up the return I don't know. Or maybe Boston would have made Iggy change his mind. But telling Chiarelli that we got the deal, then come back before midnight saying we traded Iginla to Pittsburgh because that's Iginla's choice is stupid.
I wouldn't be surprise if he mess up a potential trade for Bouwmeester. Flames I believe are on a maximum contract limit right now. So if Feaster trades with Detroit for instance, he can only pick one contract player (prospect or not) and he might settle with 5th round pick, which will be suck. I hope he waits until the offseason to trade Bouw. That way, some of the contract players might not re-sign and Feaster will have room to take 2 contract players from Detroit or something.

[moon]

Originally Posted by OzSome

I wouldn't be surprise if he mess up a potential trade for Bouwmeester. Flames I believe are on a maximum contract limit right now. So if Feaster trades with Detroit for instance, he can only pick one contract player (prospect or not) and he might settle with 5th round pick, which will be suck. I hope he waits until the offseason to trade Bouw. That way, some of the contract players might not re-sign and Feaster will have room to take 2 contract players from Detroit or something.

Flames have 47 or 48 contracts. Lost Iginla contract didn't add any in this deal.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by moon

Flames have 47 or 48 contracts. Lost Iginla contract didn't add any in this deal.

Yeah I believe 48 it is the number right now.

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Of course you can, but what made you change your mind? Butler is still below average to terrible, Paul Byron is not developing like anyone had hoped and we still lost a second round pick for (your words again) "our second best defencemen" at the time.

Anyways we'll agree to disagree because nothing will convince me we did well in the trade.

Honestly I was probably pretty emotional after that trade. Looking back at it now, Regher was a steady physical presence on the back end, but he was also starting to slow down and was getting walked around more often. Regehr's non-existent offense has somehow found a way to become even more non existent. Regehr is now on the down slope of his career and the 5th defenseman on a bad team, and Butler is entering his prime and is the 5th defenseman on a bad team. The difference is about 3 million in salary. The Flames used to cap space from that trade to bring Cammalleri back too, so it isn't like they made the move to clear cap space and didn't use it.

[nik-]

Even after a year of sober reflection, I still think that Regehr deal was bad. The Kotalik addition costing us a second, and then the return for Regehr ending up being mostly a dud.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

The difference is about 3 million in salary. The Flames used to cap space from that trade to bring Cammalleri back too, so it isn't like they made the move to clear cap space and didn't use it.

They just used that space poorly.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by C_of_Red28

"Everyone from the NHL saying the Flames got absolutley robbed in this deal" - Darren Dreger.

This is another example why Feaster should be fired and I agree with Dreger on this matter. We got SFA for Iginla.. okay lets get serious.. two plugs and a first rounder.. (which will probably be a 30th)... We can't draft the best of times even if its in the 10th spot).

Secondly, the whole Ryan O'Reilly nightmare.. Feaster dodged a bullet on that one.. How can a GM not understand or double check the rules.

Third, waiving both our back up goalies.. WTF. How does that invoke confidence. He you guys both suck so we are going to keep the guy that no team wants.. Then a couple of weeks later Kipper goes down ... oh btw forget we waived you.. Your our man.. go out there and win us game... Great Management skill guys.

Fourth, Butler trade... terrible.

Fifth, I will not blame all this one on Feaster but where are all the prospects.. Maybe Feaster should be fired and taking the scouting staff with him.

Anyways the Flames are becoming a laughing stock of the league and we will shortly be following the Islanders, Blue Jackets and even the Oilers. Makes me sick thinking about it.

don't forget the Brad Richards bullet.

currently has what? 18 points on a 12 million dollar contract year?!

Guy will be earning 6.66 million dollars when he is 38!

That was a disaster of a contract, that again, we barely dodged and not because of any of the actions of this organization, rather, in spite of it.

[Pointman]

Not defending Feaster, but could it be that management team is a little bit understaffed/overworked? Looking at all the major fails, it feels so:

1. Not checking rules on ROR waivers issue. Just didn't have an extra pair of eyes to double-check it.

2. Not recognizing Cervenka is a winger. I don't believe Weisbrod or even scouts are so incompetent that they can't tell a winger from a center. You don't even have to watch him, his center/winger thing was explained in his interview. Didn't seem to have an extra guy on the management/scouting team to dig the issue.

3. Didn't get Iginla's list in writing. Once again didn't have an extra mind to think it through.

It just feels like too much information flowing through too little braincenter thus creating rudiculous oversights. Again, I'm not trying to defend Feaster with this by any means and I don't know how big is Flames management team compared to other franchises.

[bluck]

Panel on the score all think Feaster doesn't make it past this season.. Please bring on Burke..

[Vulcan]

The only defence Feaster has is that he's just a puppet for King and the owners. That being said, we don't need a puppet.

I believe Feaster has lots of help, it's more a case of poor leadership.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bluck

Panel on the score all think Feaster doesn't make it past this season.. Please bring on Burke..

I'm starting to think that he will gone before the draft. King and Edwards are going to keep using him to sell off everything that isn't bolted down, but the building part will be someone else.

[mikephoen]

I'd like to see a poll on where people stand with management. I'd make the options:

1. Still believe this management team can make the right moves.

2. Reserving judgment until after the trade deadline.

3. No faith left, make drastic changes before they do anything else stupid.

Prior to the ROR offer sheet thing I was a moderate supporter. After that I was in the reserve judgment camp. Now I'm pretty solidly in the no faith left crowd. They could win me back with some good moves at the deadline, but I'm not expecting it.

[EVERLAST]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

I've got tickets for the Fire Feaster Train, leaving from Poor Trade Returns Station, travelling via the most unbalanced roster ever assembled, and with stops at Left Wingers at Every Forward Position, and the Ryan O'Reilley Offer Sheet Fiasco. On weekends it connects through the Graveyard of 2nd String Goalies, and Unequivocal Statements That Are Shown To Be False. Please no smoking, no pets, and no defensive defencemen. Reduced fares available to players 5-foot-9 and under. Admission free for college students.

Cold......freezing cold baby.......but true

[Psytic]

How does this guy have a law degree and not understand contract law. How does he have a job after all these ######ed screwups. It seems like our management is just as dumb or dumber than Edmonton. I am amazed they didnt get the list of teams in writing from Iggy. Duuuurrrrrrrr. Didn't bother to read the contract law on RoR durrrrrrrrr. Did he get his degree from a cereal box?

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm starting to think that he will gone before the draft. King and Edwards are going to keep using him to sell off everything that isn't bolted down, but the building part will be someone else.

The question i have was, why was he not let go a month ago? The writing has been on the wall since RoR incedent. If they don't trust him as a GM, why have him sell off the assets? The players or prospects that he gets back might be completely different than what the new GM is looking for.

[CalgaryFan1988]

I've been on the fire Feaster train since day one. I always hoped he'd prove me wrong, but he's don't nothing but make one mistake after another one. Not only that, but everything he does has so much drama that goes a long with it followed by negative publicity.

It takes a long time to build a respectable franchise and a very short time to turn it into a laughing stock.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

The question i have was, why was he not let go a month ago? The writing has been on the wall since RoR incedent. If they don't trust him as a GM, why have him sell off the assets? The players or prospects that he gets back might be completely different than what the new GM is looking for.

One reason could be that they don't want the incoming GM to deal with the garbage and fan backlash from selling everything - especially Iginla. It could be that they have already interviewed the next GM and he has given instructions about what things to buy and sell.

If the hype is true, then Feaster isn't making the decisions anyway so trust in him is irrelevant.

[shniper]

Scumbag Flames fans: Demand rebuild or Feasters head on platter. Feaster begins rebuild, fans want head anyways.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by moon

Flames have 47 or 48 contracts. Lost Iginla contract didn't add any in this deal.

Oh wait, i was thinking about Boston's deal. You are right, those two players doesn't have the NHL contracts yet because they are still playing in the NCAA.