[News] Morgan Rielly pulls a Dale Hunter (Suspended 5 games)

[Jiri Hrdina]

Who are the genius reporters that felt Ryan Reaves was the guy to ask about this?

[bluejays]

This should all be about the cross-check and not any nonsense leading up to it. As a cross-check it was pretty tame. Barely any force to it. Just based on that I'd give it a two game. Just because they f'd up the Anderson suspension doesn't mean they have to mess another one up. It's worthy of two or three tops. The Leaf hate is silly.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Who are the genius reporters that felt Ryan Reaves was the guy to ask about this?

Ryan Reaves is a dope. He shouldn't even be asked a question about what they play in the dressing room. The guy comes across as dumb the second he opens his mouth.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bluejays

This should all be about the cross-check and not any nonsense leading up to it. As a cross-check it was pretty tame. Barely any force to it. Just based on that I'd give it a two game. Just because they f'd up the Anderson suspension doesn't mean they have to mess another one up. It's worthy of two or three tops. The Leaf hate is silly.

Its a crosscheck to the head 5 seconds AFTER a goal as the guy is skating back to the bench. The standard is the standard, the Leaf defending is silly. He is getting 6 IMO

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Who are the genius reporters that felt Ryan Reaves was the guy to ask about this?

They knew he’d say something that would generate more clicks and generate interest in this story that’s starting to fade. Gotta fill that gap before the suspension is announced.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

What I don't understand is, why is there no "code" against cross-checking guy in the face?

oh there is....and its gonna cost Reilly X games and hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Its a crosscheck to the head 5 seconds AFTER a goal as the guy is skating back to the bench. The standard is the standard, the Leaf defending is silly. He is getting 6 IMO

Sure. But as a crosscheck it barely grazed his head. He should be accountable for his stick and his actions but hardly a callous act or one where he went bananas to hurt the guy. We've all seen way worse intents and plays. If it was a two hand cross to the head with his arms out there I could see 10, but this wasn't it. At least IMO. Especially in slow mo.

[Coach]

An ex-NHLer I'm close with played through multiple deep cup runs in the 80's. One of those they faced the Canadiens with a young puke named Claude Lemieux. He used to wait after warmups and shoot a shot into the opposing team's net as they left the ice. One-time the backup goalie (legend Chico Resh) stayed on the ice and kept stopping the pucks until it infuriated Lemieux. THAT is how you respond to a troll. With more hilarious trollery.*

*This incident also erupted into a full team-on-team brawl before the game even started with multiple players on the ice half-dressed, barefoot, sandals, etc..

** This team also employed the one and only Ron Hextall in his playing prime, which was also his point of highest lunacy. Google that guy and its basically 50/50 highlight reel saves mixed with him chasing players in a rage. Dude was a genuine nut.

Not sure what the point is. I personally think what Rielly did was stupid, but I also think watching Hextall chase down a guy after scoring on him is hilarious and awesome. So maybe some hypocrisy or just laughing at the old ways while knowing it should be different. But it's also all entertaining. And I'm not the one who got cross-checked in the face so meh.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Sure. But as a crosscheck it barely grazed his head. He should be accountable for his stick and his actions but hardly a callous act or one where he went bananas to hurt the guy. We've all seen way worse intents and plays. If it was a two hand cross to the head with his arms out there I could see 10, but this wasn't it. At least IMO. Especially in slow mo.

I thought it was pretty bad, maybe not 10 but 6 seems fair. What happened 5, 10, 20 years ago is irrelevant...league wants to get head shots out of the game period, let alone ones that happen well after the play with a few seconds left on the clock.

[mrkajz44]

I had a huge argument with several guys at work about this and I think what really strikes me about the "code" is how it doesn't really mean anything? Not one guy who thought that the slapshot was offside could really explain how it was "showing up the opposition" or "disrespecting the game". All they could do was toss clichés out there but couldn't rationally explain why it was so bad.

My sarcastic response to all this was "yeah, we really need to get the slapshots into an empty net out of the game - it's just ruining the NHL now".

It seems wild to me that most everyone that was part of the discussion agreed that some sort of physical altercation was required (though most agreed the cross check was too much), despite a legal play happening on the ice. The only "bad" part was the speed of the shot into the empty net - that's what necessitates violence??

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

I had a huge argument with several guys at work about this and I think what really strikes me about the "code" is how it doesn't really mean anything? Not one guy who thought that the slapshot was offside could really explain how it was "showing up the opposition" or "disrespecting the game". All they could do was toss clichés out there but couldn't rationally explain why it was so bad.

My sarcastic response to all this was "yeah, we really need to get the slapshots into an empty net out of the game - it's just ruining the NHL now".

It seems wild to me that most everyone that was part of the discussion agreed that some sort of physical altercation was required (though most agreed the cross check was too much), despite a legal play happening on the ice. The only "bad" part was the speed of the shot into the empty net - that's what necessitates violence??

It’s just faux machismo that is fully engrained into the sport in Canada. It’s “disrespect”, and deserves pain! Lots of pain!

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by transplant99

oh there is....and its gonna cost Reilly X games and hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I hope the x = 5 minimum and his team goes on a long losing streak.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by bluejays

This should all be about the cross-check and not any nonsense leading up to it. As a cross-check it was pretty tame. Barely any force to it. Just based on that I'd give it a two game. Just because they f'd up the Anderson suspension doesn't mean they have to mess another one up. It's worthy of two or three tops. The Leaf hate is silly.

It's because it was a Leaf player who did it and it always gets blown out of proportion. Wherewas the thread about the Perron crosscheck? That was way more vicious. Was there a big uproar when Simmonds got crosschecked in the face by the Habs a vouple years back? Things changed so much? Doubt it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comme...ey_removed_it/

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

I had a huge argument with several guys at work about this and I think what really strikes me about the "code" is how it doesn't really mean anything? Not one guy who thought that the slapshot was offside could really explain how it was "showing up the opposition" or "disrespecting the game". All they could do was toss clichés out there but couldn't rationally explain why it was so bad.

My sarcastic response to all this was "yeah, we really need to get the slapshots into an empty net out of the game - it's just ruining the NHL now".

It seems wild to me that most everyone that was part of the discussion agreed that some sort of physical altercation was required (though most agreed the cross check was too much), despite a legal play happening on the ice. The only "bad" part was the speed of the shot into the empty net - that's what necessitates violence??

Your colleagues can't form an argument that is why

I'm not even a guy and I'm on the "code" side. If I was addressing this with you at work here's what it is.

It's a trust issue. Both teams know to play within these guidelines. Play hard and fair, don't show anyone up. Who do you think you are to go outside those lines showing up the opponent when the other 39 players in the lineup know their place? How DARE you! These are things weasels like Kessler do.

Again, this is why we have NFL victory formations, NBA runs out the final few seconds under the shot clock, no bunting or stealing bases while up by alot, tennis cant go for the body, cricket don't bowl bouncers to tailenders, or soccer not kicking the ball out when a player is hurt or not giving the ball back afterwards. Heck, taking your shirt off in soccer is a yellow card and that's certainly not a safety issue. Sure they sound dumb (and are dumb) but those are the parameters of the game and everyone knows that. When players go outside of those imaginary boundaries that they all know being in that sport, the other team gets mad. In hockey, the net is a team's sacred thing. You cannot argue that Greig didn't know.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

It's because it was a Leaf player who did it and it always gets blown out of proportion. Wherewas the thread about the Perron crosscheck? That was way more vicious. Was there a big uproar when Simmonds got crosschecked in the face by the Habs a vouple years back? Things changed so much? Doubt it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comme...ey_removed_it/

You are really going to come here and complain about a double standard? We are Calgary Flames fans guy

Go look at the last Lucic and Tkachuk suspensions in Calgary

/

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Your colleagues can't form an argument that is why

I'm not even a guy and I'm on the "code" side. If I was addressing this with you at work here's what it is.

It's a trust issue. Both teams know to play within these guidelines. Play hard and fair, don't show anyone up. Who do you think you are to go outside those lines showing up the opponent when the other 39 players in the lineup know their place? How DARE you! These are things weasels like Kessler do.

Again, this is why we have NFL victory formations, NBA runs out the final few seconds under the shot clock, no bunting or stealing bases while up by alot, tennis cant go for the body, cricket don't bowl bouncers to tailenders, or soccer not kicking the ball out when a player is hurt or not giving the ball back afterwards. Heck, taking your shirt off in soccer is a yellow card and that's certainly not a safety issue. Sure they sound dumb (and are dumb) but those are the parameters of the game and everyone knows that. When players go outside of those imaginary boundaries that they all know being in that sport, the other team gets mad. In hockey, the net is a team's sacred thing. You cannot argue that Greig didn't know.

Okay, but wait, was that even Rielly’s thought process when cross-checking Greig? Or is everyone else just reading this “code” infraction into the situation? I dunno. Is there a reason to think that he wasn’t going to cross check him anyway for scoring?

[dino7c]

I hope my opponent takes a massive slapper at the EN...there is a better chance they miss that way

[savemedrzaius]

It's a suspendable crosscheck but people acting like it's some "heinous" act or whatever are just showing their Leaf hate or just don't know hockey. The guys on PTI talked about the Reilly hit. Guarantee they didn't even hear about the Perron hit. Everything gets blownup because fans of other teams love to talk about the Leafs and then complain about all the media attention they get. Case in point, this thread.

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I hope my opponent takes a massive slapper at the EN...there is a better chance they miss that way

I don't even care about the slapper. I just don't get how this high crosscheck is so much worse than the other crosschecks that are suspendable in the NHL other than a Leafs player did it so people get a chance to bash the Leafs.

[Jay Random]

It has nothing to do with bashing the Leafs.

Crosschecking during play is a penalty, and sometimes deserves a suspension, but at least it's a foul committed in the course of the game. This was a crosscheck delivered well after the clock was stopped, and served absolutely no purpose except to vent Rielly's temper tantrum.

And as others have pointed out, it was a headshot, and the league has to punish it severely if it is serious about getting headshots out of the game.