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Old 06-02-2023, 07:56 PM   #381
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How is Gallant with with the young players?
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If true, gross. More of the same band-aid solutions.
Yeah, that would suck. On a positive note, at least it wouldn't be Huska.
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Old 06-02-2023, 08:44 PM   #383
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It sounds like Gallant's shelf life is short for different reasons than Sutter. The players supposedly like Gallant.
I heard something like that. I think Gallant’s issue is that he fights a lot with Management. We would really love Gallant for the 2 seasons he would be employed here before being fired.
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I've been a Gallant fan for a long time since his Panthers days. I get the trepidation because of the constant short tenures despite success, but I think he's a good coach that preaches disciplined defensive play and yet he likes creativity. To me, that's exactly what this team needs desperately. He's experienced and proven, and he could be a good mentor to a recently promoted Love.

I can't see Conroy being a guy that gets bothered by a cantankerous coach that he butts heads with occasionally. Conroy is the ultimate team guy who knows how to check his ego, and he'll manage that aspect of Gallant if need be, just as long as the team wins.

I'm not as scared about this as many others on this site, but I do understand why people wouldn't want him either.
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I'm ok with Gallant, as he's clearly a very good coach. But I think I'd still prefer to see Love get the gig.
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Gallant for two years to mentor Love, I'd be on that.
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Old 06-02-2023, 09:09 PM   #387
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A quick Google of hs relationship with young players says he leans more on experienced players and there was one quote where he said his job was to win games. Are we ready for Gallant, or should we give the young guys some experience and bring in a coach like Gallant at a later point. To be fair from what I got was that Gallant appears to be more of a players coach, but not always in the young players favor. Wonder if this is where some of the headbutting occurs?
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Old 06-02-2023, 09:20 PM   #388
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A quick Google of hs relationship with young players says he leans more on experienced players and there was one quote where he said his job was to win games. Are we ready for Gallant, or should we give the young guys some experience and bring in a coach like Gallant at a later point. To be fair from what I got was that Gallant appears to be more of a players coach, but not always in the young players favor. Wonder if this is where some of the headbutting occurs?
I wonder if he would even have a choice but to play young players if Backlund and Lindholm are gone. He would have to play some by default.
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Old 06-02-2023, 09:28 PM   #389
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A quick Google of hs relationship with young players says he leans more on experienced players and there was one quote where he said his job was to win games. Are we ready for Gallant, or should we give the young guys some experience and bring in a coach like Gallant at a later point. To be fair from what I got was that Gallant appears to be more of a players coach, but not always in the young players favor. Wonder if this is where some of the headbutting occurs?

This pretty much Sutter's philosophy, his job is to win games. Also, when Conroy, the GM said that he wants to insert young players into the lineup, here already a philosophical difference between HC and GM before the season even begin. Does Conroy want to bring in a coach that for sure will butt head with him? Even if Gallant put kids in the line up but only play them 5 to 6 minutes a game, does that help them develop?


If that's the case, I'm not sure I want Gallant as HC.
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Gallant was Huby's junior coach so there is that At least they had a good relationship in Florida.
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Go with Gallant is they want to give it one last shot
Otherwise, trade all the vets and get a new young coach and rebuild


Problem with young coach is you never know. Gulutzan looked good on paper before he turned out to be a complete dud
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I don't hate the idea of Gallant but I am a bit worried seeing as both Laf and Kakko in NYR have been extremely underwhelming in New York under him. Are they not that good? Are they not given opportunities playing alongside top guys like Zib, Panarin etc?

I guess acquiring Kane and Tarasenko pushed them further down the depth chart this year as well.
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Go with Gallant is they want to give it one last shot
Otherwise, trade all the vets and get a new young coach and rebuild


Problem with young coach is you never know. Gulutzan looked good on paper before he turned out to be a complete dud
Gully also wasn’t a first time coach. He was just a bad hire, and hurt this teams momentum badly.
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Gallant short term with Love under his wing training to take over in a couple years makes complete sense.

Have to develop Love properly, just like the players. Assistant coach seems like the next logical step.

As long as they're anticipated the realistic length of GG's shelf life and sign him accordingly.
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As long as they're anticipated the realistic length of GG's shelf life and sign him accordingly.

If we do hire Gallant, it is going to take a while to figure out which "GG" head-coach people are referring to.
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Gallant short term with Love under his wing training to take over in a couple years makes complete sense.

Have to develop Love properly, just like the players. Assistant coach seems like the next logical step.

As long as they're anticipated the realistic length of GG's shelf life and sign him accordingly.
Does this ever happen anywhere though? I see this sentiment in this thread numerous times, reality is, once the head coach is fired, the assistants usually go with them. Everyone was excited that Muller and Huska were part of the coaching staff when Sutter was hired, assuming one of them would take the helm once Sutter was finished here. Fast forward 2 years and those two probably are gone fairly shortly to make room for a fresh coaching staff.

If Love is brought on as an assistant, he'll definitely learn under the more experienced head coach. He might also become a head coach at some point, but probably not with the Flames.
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Ownership wants to win now, and Gallant has proven himself everywhere he's been that he gets teams competitive in year 1, right away. For this reason, he'll be the leading candidate IMO. The key factor will be what Huberdeau thinks about him, and I'm certain Conroy will ask him. I also don't think Conroy will bring someone on that Huberdeau isn't supportive of. I also don't think Huberdeau necessarily cares to have a player's coach, I think he cares more about the coach's style, especially offensively.
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Old 06-03-2023, 09:27 AM   #398
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If the team wants Love to be the coach just hire him. There seems to be way too many red flags bringing in Gallant only to mentor Love for a short term.

First off why would Gallant want to do that? And if you say not to tell him that is the plan, but it is obvious to everyone it is that seems like a good way to burn bridges with future coaches.

Second, if players know Gallant is just here short term to mentor Love how much do they feel they need to listen to him especially when he is tough on them? Doesn't seem to be a great way to build a team.

If you are concerned about Love's lack of experience I think you hire him as coach and get a good, experienced vet to be an assistant. There are many of those guys around and that would be a much better way to mentor him if he is the guy you ultimately want as HC.

Gallant for 2 years to see if he can squeeze anything out of this roster and then Love sliding in after seems like the kind of short term, band aid moves that has kept this club in mediocrity for so long.
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Does this ever happen anywhere though? I see this sentiment in this thread numerous times, reality is, once the head coach is fired, the assistants usually go with them. Everyone was excited that Muller and Huska were part of the coaching staff when Sutter was hired, assuming one of them would take the helm once Sutter was finished here. Fast forward 2 years and those two probably are gone fairly shortly to make room for a fresh coaching staff.

If Love is brought on as an assistant, he'll definitely learn under the more experienced head coach. He might also become a head coach at some point, but probably not with the Flames.
Probably not the end of the world. But I was thinking the same thing. Assistant coaches rarely get groomed for the head coach position with the same organization. Even if that’s the intent
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Ideally for me now it's Tanguay as HC with Love as Associate. I would also be fine with the reverse. Adding Savard as an assistant would be great too but it sounds like he doesn't want to be an assistant.
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