[PGT] Flames take Game 1: Marky with the Donut!

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah the top line was invisible five on five. They literally generated nothing.

To put it in perspective ...

Top line averaged a xGF last night of 0.09 ... less than 10% of a five on five goal.

On the season they averaged 0.79 xGF per game, and didn't have a single night at the 0.09 level. Their worst game in the regular season was the Nov 11th game in Montreal at 0.17.

So yeah ... I hear you, and the breeze comment.

Other way to look at it though ... Flames are up 1-0 with their top line playing their worst five on five game of the year! Like the odds of them improving from rock bottom.

Watching in person, their repeated tactic of Johnny or Matty centers the puck from behind the net failed again and again every single time. It was picked up or blocked before someone could get off the one timer. It seems like Dallas has focused on and solved this strategy.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Yeah the top line was invisible five on five. They literally generated nothing.

To put it in perspective ...

Top line averaged a xGF last night of 0.09 ... less than 10% of a five on five goal.

On the season they averaged 0.79 xGF per game, and didn't have a single night at the 0.09 level. Their worst game in the regular season was the Nov 11th game in Montreal at 0.17.

So yeah ... I hear you, and the breeze comment.

Other way to look at it though ... Flames are up 1-0 with their top line playing their worst five on five game of the year! Like the odds of them improving from rock bottom.

I guess partly I 've lost track of what was 5 on 5 versus PP (damn I hate PP fest games) but while I think the top line was not at their best, there were also some 'chances' of sorts that I don't think register in the conventional way- pucks flying through the crease that Tkachuk or Lindholm whiffed at....


anyways not trying to defend their night, but it did feel to me that there were a few sorties around the net that on other nights could have ended in good things for them...otherwise yeah not enough happening around the slot- I think/hope they can correct that...maybe we need more Klingberg!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

I found it soooo hot in the Dome last night, will be interesting if there’s anything they can do to cool it down for Thursday.

Yeah, and what was the deal with the Zambonis?

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1517705852441956354

https://twitter.com/user/status/1517705905235632128

The farm team knows what's up.

They know what they're about. I can respect that.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Watching in person, their repeated tactic of Johnny or Matty centers the puck from behind the net failed again and again every single time. It was picked up or blocked before someone could get off the one timer. It seems like Dallas has focused on and solved this strategy.

true, but I think that can be sorted out- hell that's how that failed Michigan helped in the one game about a month ago...anything to get the opponents thinking about more than one option

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Alright, the goal is now to win the cup while scoring the fewest goals in history... 1-0 games from here on out. Markstrom with 15 shutouts, Vladar with 1.

So you’re predicting the Kings knock out the Oilers then.

[FlamesAddiction]

I think there were a few things that affected how the game transformed into the tight checking affair it became.

Mainly, both teams losing their top offensive defensemen after the 1st period likely played a role. Both players are pretty significant catalysts for generating offense. Not too mention, the shorter benches likely impacted the overall endurance of the backend. It seemed to me that both teams were getting tired near the end of the game from the earlier physical play and all the penalty killing, plus being a player down on the bench. If Andersson and Klingberg stayed in the game, I think the dynamic would have been a lot different. It is really trashy that Klingberg could instigate the fight and both players were ejected for it. We should get the 4th line instigating secondary fights after the whistle against Dallas's top players to get them ejected if that is the rule.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

So you’re predicting the Kings knock out the Oilers then.

Fair point; if the Oilers do get past the Kings then Vladar can have 4 shutouts, no reason to play Marky in that series. Might as well get him some rest.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Fair point; if the Oilers do get past the Kings then Vladar can have 4 shutouts, no reason to play Marky in that series. Might as well get him some rest.

I was more meaning it would be really difficult to only score one on the Oilers.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I said this yesterday but I think fans should do the wave before the game. It’d be a great way to loosen up the crowd get people involved, get them used to standing and cheering.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Watching in person, their repeated tactic of Johnny or Matty centers the puck from behind the net failed again and again every single time. It was picked up or blocked before someone could get off the one timer. It seems like Dallas has focused on and solved this strategy.

Which should mean bringing the puck out from behind the net on a wider arch should be open.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Which should mean bringing the puck out from behind the net on a wider arch should be open.

yep.


also with Rasmus back gives another blueline option to look for- harder even for the guys who were left to activate in the offensive zone when they are down to 5

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I think there were a few things that affected how the game transformed into the tight checking affair it became.

Mainly, both teams losing their top offensive defensemen after the 1st period likely played a role. Both players are pretty significant catalysts for generating offense. Not too mention, the shorter benches likely impacted the overall endurance of the backend. It seemed to me that both teams were getting tired near the end of the game from the earlier physical play and all the penalty killing, plus being a player down on the bench. If Andersson and Klingberg stayed in the game, I think the dynamic would have been a lot different. It is really trashy that Klingberg could instigate the fight and both players were ejected for it. We should get the 4th line instigating secondary fights after the whistle against Dallas's top players to get them ejected if that is the rule.

I think it greatly affected the Flames transition game too with all the foreign defense pairs.

The Flames use the D to D to move from strong to weak side often, but that needs some communication.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I said this yesterday but I think fans should do the wave before the game. It’d be a great way to loosen up the crowd get people involved, get them used to standing and cheering.

Perhaps something trite and forced like the 7th inning stretch?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by looooob

yep.


also with Rasmus back gives another blueline option to look for- harder even for the guys who were left to activate in the offensive zone when they are down to 5

The Flames were essentially down to 4 defensemen since Tanev got put with Hanifin and Kylington was left out for much of the game after that. That fight essentially removed 2 players that can generate offense from the back.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

You are right about Section 107 starting the Wave. Shout out to any CPers from Section 107. Please explain to them that rotating crowd noise is quite distracting for players in a tight game.

If the wave is distracting to the players then those players shouldn't be in the NHL. In fact, the fans should just shut up and be quiet all game long so the players can focus....

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

The Flames were essentially down to 4 defensemen since Tanev got put with Hanifin and Kylington was left out for much of the game after that. That fight essentially removed 2 players that can generate offense from the back.

Dallas also went to basically 4 dmen.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Buff

If the wave is distracting to the players then those players shouldn't be in the NHL. In fact, the fans should just shut up and be quiet all game long so the players can focus....

Attractive women in tight/revealing outfits should also be banned or placed exclusively behind the visitors' bench.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Dallas also went to basically 4 dmen.

which is fine- the point isn't really which team had it worse off- just that the loss of Anderson (and the spill off effect of dropping Kylington) would have had an impact on the Flames generating offence (both in the offensive zone and in transition)

[blender]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

Probably b/c it was also on SNP.

CBC national kept the Pens/Rags.

Every Sportsnet channel except SNW was carrying Pens/Rags with the exception of 360 which
had Avs/Preds.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Dallas also went to basically 4 dmen.

I assumed that was the case. I wasn't sure how it shook out for them though when it came to who was left out. Klingberg is obviously a big part of the offense and transition game, but who was the other guy that ended up being the odd man out?