06-10-2009, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
The problem with stupid laws such as this is that dozens of people are going to simply pay the fine before someone gets this law tossed in the courts as a violation of free speech.
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Aret you infringing on someones right to not hear those words when you speak them though?
I for one support this bill. If those inbreds want to sware in public like some adolescent child, then let them get fined. There is a place for that, its called your home when TSN keeps suggesting that some jobber goalie like Chris Osgood should make the Olympic team. that is a time to sware.
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06-10-2009, 09:02 AM
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#22
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Driver fined for swearing at speed camera
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Simon Thompson, 41, extended his middle finger at the mobile speed camera as he passed it whilst driving safely under the speed limit. Simon, from Colchester in Essex was astonished when half an hour later the two policemen who had been operating the camera knocked on his front door. The officers handed Simon a fixed penalty notice for £80 for making offensive gestures under the Public Order Act.
Simon told The Sun newspaper: "I wasn’t giving the officers the finger, I was aiming my anger at the camera. I’ve got as much contempt for speed cameras as everyone else. I’m a careful driver. My licence has been clean for ten years."
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http://cars.uk.msn.com/news/car_news...umentid=475229
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06-10-2009, 09:03 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm
Let me guess, your a 20 year old emo hypochondriac?
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Hardly
I could turn it around and say that your an ill mannered badly educated self entitled 20 year old with no control.
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06-10-2009, 09:05 AM
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#24
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Hardly
I could turn it around and say that your an ill mannered badly educated self entitled 20 year old with no control.
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close, im 27, but the rest is about right.
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06-10-2009, 09:05 AM
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#25
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Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm
We already have public disturbance and drunkness charges, if it really is that bad, the cops should be handing one of those out.
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That's the point of the article dude. Seriously, did you even read it?
The point was that most of the stuff on the bylaw was already illegal, and that this new bylaw just gave cops differnt ways of dealing with it.
In some cases, they can now give out court appearances when they coudln't before, and in some cases they can give out fines, where they coudn't before.
I read another atricle about his in the Sun on Monday or Tuesday (Was actually waiting for it to get here, and was supprised it didn't, guess I was wrong), and it gave the example of people being drunk jerks on long weekends. Before all the cops could really do was throw them in the drunk tank, which most of them didn't care about. Now they can give them a fine, which is much more likely to get them to quit whatever they are doing.
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06-10-2009, 09:05 AM
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ughhhhhh.....I really need to move to Asia! How have we let our society become so over-run with pointless rules and laws!
My god, it makes me sick!
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06-10-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
That's the point of the article dude. Seriously, did you even read it?
The point was that most of the stuff on the bylaw was already illegal, and that this new bylaw just gave cops differnt ways of dealing with it.
In some cases, they can now give out court appearances when they coudln't before, and in some cases they can give out fines, where they coudn't before.
I read another atricle about his in the Sun on Monday or Tuesday (Was actually waiting for it to get here, and was supprised it didn't, guess I was wrong), and it gave the example of people being drunk jerks on long weekends. Before all the cops could really do was throw them in the drunk tank, which most of them didn't care about. Now they can give them a fine, which is much more likely to get them to quit whatever they are doing.
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Why not just go to the source and start charging bars that over-serve alchohol to people, or just eliminate alchohol altogether?
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06-10-2009, 09:08 AM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO
ughhhhhh.....I really need to move to Asia! How have we let our society become so over-run with pointless rules and laws!
My god, it makes me sick!
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Yeah, because at least the canings are over with in a hurry and don't effect your pocket book.
Oh wait, I see what you did there.
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06-10-2009, 09:08 AM
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Heh.. Demolition Man.
John Spartan: [to machine on wall after finding out that they no longer use toilet paper] Thanks a lot you ****-brained, ****-faced, ball breaking, duck ****ing pain in the ass.
Moral Statute Machine: John Spartan, you are fined five credits for repeated violations of the verbal morality statute.
John Spartan: [grabbing the tickets] So much for the seashells. See you in a few minutes.
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06-10-2009, 09:11 AM
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#30
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Are you kidding me? Nazis? Wow.
I can feel my inalienable human rights being tread upon as no more than common dirt. This is fascism at its finest folks. Dont stand for it, rise up and rebel!
Swearers of the world UNITE!
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06-10-2009, 09:15 AM
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#31
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Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm
Why not just go to the source and start charging bars that over-serve alchohol to people, or just eliminate alchohol altogether?
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Lets get him!!
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06-10-2009, 09:17 AM
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#32
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Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm
Why not just go to the source and start charging bars that over-serve alchohol to people, or just eliminate alchohol altogether?
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Well guess what, they could do that, as it is illegal to serve someone who is drunk. But unless the cops are in the bar to see it, or have some other evidence that can prove that this guy got drunk at this bar there's nothing they can do.
But they sure as hell can prove that some dude who's being a drunk a****** is being a drunk a******.
And I love it when people who are so adamant that a law like this is infringing on their rights and then throw out something like "Just eliminate alcohol altogether", like it adds some weight to their argument.
Alcohol is a vice, and when you turn 18 you're given the right to consume it, but with that right comes the expectation that you can be a little bit responsible, and not act like a drunk jerk, or drive, or do any number of things. But if you do do those things you're going to get charged for them.
That's how the world works, you're given certain freedoms with the expecation that while excercising them you won't abuse them, and if you do, then you'll be expected to pay the consequences.
I have the right to drive, but not to speed. I have the right to have a campfire, but not start a 50 ft bonfire in the middle of a campground, I have the right to have a few beers, but not be a drunken beligerant a******.
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06-10-2009, 09:18 AM
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#33
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Norm!
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Attica attica
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06-10-2009, 09:31 AM
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What if you had Tourette's Syndrome?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprolalia
Coprolalia is involuntary swearing or the involuntary utterance of obscene words or socially inappropriate and derogatory remarks. Coprolalia comes from the Greek κόπρος (kopros) meaning "faeces" and λαλία (lalia) from lalein, "to talk".[1] The term is often used as a clinomorphism, with 'compulsive profanity' inaccurately referred to as being Tourette syndrome.
Related terms are copropraxia, performing obscene or forbidden gestures,[2] and coprographia, making obscene writings or drawings.[3]
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06-10-2009, 09:34 AM
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Then you could hire a lawyer and fight it in court. Any know a good lawyer
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06-10-2009, 09:35 AM
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#36
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Then you could hire a lawyer and fight it in court. Any know a good lawyer 
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I know a lawyer, how sticky are you on good?
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06-10-2009, 09:52 AM
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Had an idea!
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If they're so hellbent on being stupid idiots, why don't they start banning the real cause of this newfound 'swearing' problem?
Alcohol?
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06-10-2009, 09:53 AM
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#38
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO
ughhhhhh.....I really need to move to Asia! How have we let our society become so over-run with pointless rules and laws!
My god, it makes me sick!
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*Please choose Singapore... Please choose Singapore...*
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06-10-2009, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Azure
If they're so hellbent on being stupid idiots, why don't they start banning the real cause of this newfound 'swearing' problem?
Alcohol?
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Post 27 and 32 wanted to ask "Why male models?"
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06-10-2009, 10:13 AM
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#40
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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
To those who haven't read the article.
THIS IS NOT A SWEARING BYLAW.
This is a public nuissance bylaw that covers a whole range of things from fighting, pissing in public, bullying, and graffiti.
Swearing was used in the headline to grab your attention.
Seriously, does anyone actually belive ANY cop will write you a ticket for "Swearing" which I'm guessing doesn't even exist, it's just an example of being a public nuissance?
Why would they do that, when chances are if you are swearing enough that he cares, he can probaly write you a ticket for drunk & dissorderly conduct?
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The problem with public nusisance bylaws is that they target in a round about way the behaviour they want to prevent. The behaviour here wanting to be prevented is public drukeness so like you said above the ticket they should be handing out is public drunkeness. Why do they need an extra law just enforce the one you have. And if a dog is allowed to crap and pee in public I should be to provided I pick up after myself and do it in a non-indecent manner.
I am going to sylvain lake this summer to swear loudly on the beach and I will bring a child. I hate the whole think of the children arguement on swearing. The more you mystify these words the more power you give them so buy saying them, explaining what they mean, and explaining when it is appropriate to use them (when you hurt yourself and at sporting events when Inginla decides not to play defense or our power play can't do something simple like enter the zone). By doing this you reduce the power of the words. Nothing bothers me more then a person tells someone to quit swearing because there are kids around when they don't have kids around. They are actual asking you to quit swearing because it bothers them and using kids as an excuse.
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