BCS Standings

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

It's not the students who fill the stands for these teams in the bowl games.

Really? Maybe I'm out of date. I remember Nebraska sent like 40000 people to the Rose Bowl that year they got killed by Miami.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by OilersBaby

Ducks may beat LSU or whomever they end up facing in the National Championship game but I honestly think that LSU is a better

That makes zero sense.

Just because a team plays in the best conference doesn't make them the best team.

And I'm pretty sure that most of attendance in bowl games is students/alumni.

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Really? Maybe I'm out of date. I remember Nebraska sent like 40000 people to the Rose Bowl that year they got killed by Miami.

that would be more than the entire student body. it is mostly university alumi and boosters who go to bowl games.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I think both systems are exciting in their own way. My question is how practical is a playoff in Div 1?

Let's say it's a 16 team playoff.

These are college kids, can they play an extra 3-4 games without burning out? When would these games be played? Are we dragging the season into February? How will fans travel? A school will send maybe 20000 fans to 1 bowl game per year. How can they send this many kids to 4 games since the games will be once a week and all over the country.

And if you were a fan of a team that got in. Which game would you buy tickets for? Remember, you're a poor student living on loans

My fear is a playoff becomes corporate with mostly suits attending the games.

Not sure I understand your argument. If the kids in division formerly known as I-AA can play an extra 3-4 games without burning out why wouldn't the division I kids be able to do it?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Not sure I understand your argument. If the kids in division formerly known as I-AA can play an extra 3-4 games without burning out why wouldn't the division I kids be able to do it?

I would argue that playing Div 1 takes a bigger toll both mentally and physically with the national spotlight on it.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

that would be more than the entire student body. it is mostly university alumi and boosters who go to bowl games.

That's true. But I still don't think boosters could make it to all the games of a playoff bracket.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

nah, i disagree. i just can't stand the fact that there are undefeated teams that don't even get a sniff at a natonal title based solely upon their stregnth of schedule or lack there of. For mid-majors, the regular season already is meaningless.

You could count those teams over the span of a decade on your hand.

And yes, for mid majors the season is meaningless ... if the only thing you care about is a national championship. If they want to be considered for a national champion, you can't spend the entire year playing cupcakes. IE if Boise State REALLY cares about a NC, then find a major conference.

I think people care too much about the NC, there are alot of great bowl games. 26 teams or so end the season on a winning note, 52 schools worth of alumni get a built in vacation and again, 26 teams get to take a tropy off the field. If they put a playoff in, even if it is only 4 or 8 teams, then the other bowl games would be completely written off and deemed irrelevant.

[Gugstanley]

I would like to see the BCS die. College football players miss the least amount of class out of all of the major sports. Cut a game from the regular season, install a 16 team playoff with conference champs getting an automatic bid.
They can still play the bowl games for everyone else that doesn't make the big dance.

[transplant99]

The SEC simply is overhyped year after year after year. They tend to have 2 or 3 very good clubs each season, but so do many other conferences. I will agree however, that the fans of the SEC teams tend to elevate the rivalries moreso than many other rivalry games in other parts of the country.

The whole system is inane though. Arbitrarily assigning a seed to the usual suspects to start the year and THEN allow computers and polls to decide things half way through the season. Riddle me this...how Michigan who lost at home to a D2 team and then got beat down by Oregon can still be considered top 12 in the country to start today? Today they were exposed by an average Wisconsin club. Its ridiculous.

At the beginning of this season it was hard to argue that USC didnt have the single toughest schedule in the entire country....and yes they lost a game they shouldnt have to a division cream puff, but it was at least a D1 club and they found themselves lower than Michigan etc? Silliness. At one point this brilliant system had the University of freaking South Florida number TWO in the entire nation. Its just such a clusterbuck of a system.

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

You could count those teams over the span of a decade on your hand.

And yes, for mid majors the season is meaningless ... if the only thing you care about is a national championship. If they want to be considered for a national champion, you can't spend the entire year playing cupcakes. IE if Boise State REALLY cares about a NC, then find a major conference.

I think people care too much about the NC, there are alot of great bowl games. 26 teams or so end the season on a winning note, 52 schools worth of alumni get a built in vacation and again, 26 teams get to take a tropy off the field. If they put a playoff in, even if it is only 4 or 8 teams, then the other bowl games would be completely written off and deemed irrelevant.

jeez, i would hope that the ultimate goal for every 1-A program, no matter how unrealistic, would be a national title. anyways, my main issue is that there is a chance that there can be multiple undefeateded's at the end of the year. at the end of the year, there should be one or none undefeated's.

I do agree that some of the bigger mid major programs could try to move into a larger conference.

[Gugstanley]

Originally Posted by ricoFlame

I do agree that some of the bigger mid major programs could try to move into a larger conference.

How do you propose that a mid major move into a BCS conference. Lets look at Utah and Boise State.
Utah was the first BCS buster, until recent has been strong in basketball and they can't get a conference to take them. On top of that the Salt Lake area TV market is growing very fast.

Boise State has been begging the Mountain West Conference to take them and they won't. Mountain West isn't even a BCS conference and is also the conference Utah is trying to escape from.

The BCS is very frustrating for anyone living in a mid-major market

[GirlySports]

Looks like we won't have to wait for Michigan to beat OSU.

What a strange season!

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by Gugstanley

How do you propose that a mid major move into a BCS conference.

It isn't that hard to figure out what to do. Hire a big ticket athletic director and coaching groups for both football and basketball. Recruit like crazy. spend mega $$. become a perennial power in both sports within conference play. pretty much impossible, but really the only thing you can do as a progrem that wants to press into the limelight. whatev, the BCS sucks i have said that, i don't like it.

[corporatejay]

Glad to see that Ohio State can lose with class.

[JayP]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Glad to see that Ohio State can lose with class.

Yeah that was pathetic.

The Illinois players weren't even fighting back either - it was just the Buckeyes throwing a tantrum.

Juice was huge in the 4th quarter. Illinois held the ball for just under 14 minutes in the 4th quarter (including an 8:09 drive to close the game). That's incredible.

[ricoFlame]

crazy season...soooo many 1 loss teams, and odds are that KU is gonna lose one down the stretch too. Poor Hawaii, nobody knows they exist out there in the abyss of the WAC.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Great news for the Jayhawks!

[ricoFlame]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Great news for the Jayhawks!

yeah, they win out, they're playing on Jan. 7.

[Clever_Iggy]

The Buckeyes finally lose a conference game. The Big Ten is so bad. I hope the Buckeyes drop out of the top 10.

Let's hope for an Oregon-Kansas championship. I think LSU is overrated.

[Flames in 07]

My vote right now is LSU vs Oregon, however KU will have some impressive games in front of it, if they win out, they bump LSU.