Telus caves - halts porn downloads

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Telus went about this all wrong when they launched it, and they're paying for it now.

Did you know that over 20% of all sites hit from web browsers on cell phones are porn related? Doesn't matter which company although those stats are for Telus, I assume that they're similar throughout. 20%!!!! One in 5! Telus tried to make it age restricted, but because of protests, we're going back to 10c/page of porn.

Had they used that little statistic, I think the protests would've been much quieter.

I don't think you could quiet the anti-porn contingent by trying to tell them how prevelent and readily available porn is; nor does it do any good to talk about how this is already done in Europe or how it actually protects children. It's a far more emotional issue, and the fact is that ever since buying the Clearnet marketing campaign, Telus has portrayed themselves as this clean, friendly, safe environment. The idea of profiting from the porn industry really went against the public image that Telus had created for themselves. You can't have it both ways, wanting the public to love your corporate image and then profiting from porn. Perhaps the soundtrack for the next Telus cuddly animal commercial should be "It's hard out here for a pimp," as that seems to sum up their predicament.

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by octothorp

I don't think you could quiet the anti-porn contingent by trying to tell them how prevelent and readily available porn is; nor does it do any good to talk about how this is already done in Europe or how it actually protects children. It's a far more emotional issue, and the fact is that ever since buying the Clearnet marketing campaign, Telus has portrayed themselves as this clean, friendly, safe environment. The idea of profiting from the porn industry really went against the public image that Telus had created for themselves. You can't have it both ways, wanting the public to love your corporate image and then profiting from porn. Perhaps the soundtrack for the next Telus cuddly animal commercial should be "It's hard out here for a pimp," as that seems to sum up their predicament.

Excellent point about current marketing strategy. Didn't even think about what their current strategy says to the population at large, but they could have combined the information to say that in order to be cleaner, friendlier, and safer, Telus is putting in these restricitve measures. Either way, they handled it all wrong.

[RougeUnderoos]

The funny thing is it was just nudie shots. Not even "real" porn. What kind of chronic wanker would pay 3 bucks for a 2 inch picture of a naked woman (or man) I don't know, but that's all it was. You'd think any guy who needs to have 24 hour access to pornography wouldn't be satisfied with just boobies.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

The funny thing is it was just nudie shots. Not even "real" porn. What kind of chronic wanker would pay 3 bucks for a 2 inch picture of a naked woman (or man) I don't know, but that's all it was. You'd think any guy who needs to have 24 hour access to pornography wouldn't be satisfied with just boobies.

Flames Gimp?

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

The funny thing is it was just nudie shots. Not even "real" porn. What kind of chronic wanker would pay 3 bucks for a 2 inch picture of a naked woman (or man) I don't know, but that's all it was. You'd think any guy who needs to have 24 hour access to pornography wouldn't be satisfied with just boobies.

Maybe 2 inches is the problem

[BBQorMILDEW]

Originally Posted by Snakeeye

Agreed. Unless the idiot arch-bishop in Vancouver has cancelled, or chosen not to get, cable TV and the internet for the same reasons, he is nothing more than a hypocrite.

I work for Loyalty and Retention in Telus, I deal with internet cancellations all day. I got a call from this lady who was so out raged over this that she is willing to pay 480 cancel fee to cancel her service. She was going crazy, saying that no self respecting catholic was ever going to stay with TELUS.
By this time i was getting a little bit ****ed off myself over the amount of negativity the Arch Bishop was spewing at TELUS, I asked the lady how is Phone porn worse than child molestation? I think it caught her off guard, I asked about how priests were allowed to molest little boys but the boys were not allowed to watch porn on their cell phone,

I had her crying on the phone, and it was great to hear.
Maybe if we had little boys naked on the phone then the Arch bishop would be signing up to TELUS to get service.

Dumbasses

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Perhaps the soundtrack for the next Telus cuddly animal commercial should be "It's hard out here for a pimp," as that seems to sum up their predicament.

Gold! Perhaps the cuddly animal could be a rooster selling adminision to other roosters wanting to visit his henhouse.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Flames Gimp?

ya i mean come on, I need 24/7 access to pornography...

you mean you're never waiting for a bus when you think "hmmmmm, i'm in the mood for some granny tranny action"?

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by BBQorMILDEW

Maybe if we had little boys naked on the phone then the Arch bishop would be signing up to TELUS to get service.

Dumbasses

I am intrigued and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by BBQorMILDEW

I work for Loyalty and Retention in Telus, I deal with internet cancellations all day. I got a call from this lady who was so out raged over this that she is willing to pay 480 cancel fee to cancel her service. She was going crazy, saying that no self respecting catholic was ever going to stay with TELUS.
By this time i was getting a little bit ****ed off myself over the amount of negativity the Arch Bishop was spewing at TELUS, I asked the lady how is Phone porn worse than child molestation? I think it caught her off guard, I asked about how priests were allowed to molest little boys but the boys were not allowed to watch porn on their cell phone,

I had her crying on the phone, and it was great to hear.
Maybe if we had little boys naked on the phone then the Arch bishop would be signing up to TELUS to get service.

Dumbasses

That's awsome man!
Good luck with the job hunt though.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Flame On

That's awsome man!
Good luck with the job hunt though.

No kidding. I certantly hope that that call was not monitored for quality control.

One thing I hate about tech support is that 99% of the time, you can't tell the client what you really think.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

How about not giving your kid a cell phone in the first place?

Sorry, with the creeps out there, if I had a daughter she would have a cell phone to be able to call if required.

This has nothing to do about children. It has to do with absentee parents trying to outlaw anything to get them off the hook. These are the same video game naziis that want to ban everything that isnt Japanese Pokeman.

MYK

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by llama64

Typical uptight North American reaction, not sure why anyone is surpised by it.

Sex is the most evil thing a kid can learn about. Better to teach them how to kill minorities with guns.

Though, putting porn on cell phones does increase the chance of porn being visible in public areas. I know I personally don't want to see some fat guy on the CTrain slobering over some naked midgit he just downloaded on his cell.

Right because postcards you can get on the streets of Amsterdam should be widely available to minors (under age 10).

This issue has to do with the freedom of choice of a large private company should be able to offer a service for a fee to customers but you get the bs "MADD" crowd on every issue under the sun.

MYK

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Excellent point about current marketing strategy. Didn't even think about what their current strategy says to the population at large, but they could have combined the information to say that in order to be cleaner, friendlier, and safer, Telus is putting in these restricitve measures. Either way, they handled it all wrong.

It could be that Telus actually wants the 10 cent page users and they purposefully mis-marketed it so that they could say they tried but no one wanted it. Would be smart buisness tactics if you ask me from a company who desparately needs to find some bright lights to guide the ship.

MYK

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

It could be that Telus actually wants the 10 cent page users and they purposefully mis-marketed it so that they could say they tried but no one wanted it. Would be smart buisness tactics if you ask me from a company who desparately needs to find some bright lights to guide the ship.

MYK

????? We make way more money off the $3/download than we do off the 10c/page. Also, how do you figure they need bright lights to guide the ship? #1 Wireless Company in Canada, fewest dropped calls, lowest churn, etc, etc... the list goes on and on. The landline department actually was in the black last quarter for the first time in years.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by BBQorMILDEW

I work for Loyalty and Retention in Telus, I deal with internet cancellations all day. I got a call from this lady who was so out raged over this that she is willing to pay 480 cancel fee to cancel her service. She was going crazy, saying that no self respecting catholic was ever going to stay with TELUS.
By this time i was getting a little bit ****ed off myself over the amount of negativity the Arch Bishop was spewing at TELUS, I asked the lady how is Phone porn worse than child molestation? I think it caught her off guard, I asked about how priests were allowed to molest little boys but the boys were not allowed to watch porn on their cell phone,

I had her crying on the phone, and it was great to hear.
Maybe if we had little boys naked on the phone then the Arch bishop would be signing up to TELUS to get service.

Dumbasses

Well, she certainly lives in a dream world. I would imagine that the number of Catholics that view porn is roughly the same as the generally population. From my experience, people tend to be the same regardless of religion.

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

If anyone out there did not see pornography before you were 12 years old, please raise your hand.

Anyway, the people that protested about this should also cancel their home phone service. You can pay someone to talk dirty to you over that phone so...

I actually saw my folks getting down and dirty once. Does that count? If not, my hand is up.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I actually saw my folks getting down and dirty once. Does that count? If not, my hand is up.

You would have been better off with porn.

[Shazam]

So in the public interest I decided to check out what my Rogers cell phone service had to offer for smut. Turns out you can get lots of pron just by going to the Rogers Mall. No age restrictions, nothing. So I guess Rogers just kept quiet about what they're offering.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I actually saw my folks getting down and dirty once. Does that count? If not, my hand is up.

Yikes. That counts for something alright, but it's a lot worse than porn.

My point is that pretty much every guy you or I may know got a look at Playboy or something when they were a young kid, and the world hasn't come crashing down. Obviously you want to keep the smut away from kids, but let's be reasonable. If a kid happens to sneak a look at a nudie shot he is not going to be corrupted for life.