Al_jazeera showing video of OBL/Al-Queda planning 9/11

[socalwingfan]

^^^^ and he's wearing velcro gloves!!!

[Looger]

Originally Posted by arsenal

Do you have the evidence and links to back that up?

there's quite a bit actually.

most of the old newspaper links are archived but they are mirrored on 'conspiracy' sites, so you can believe or not i guess.

Pensacola Naval Air Station:

http://prisonplanet.com/pensacola_na..._scrutiny.html


U.S. Sen. Bob Graham is requesting information on published reports of a possible Pensacola Naval Air Station tie-in to last week's terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

As many as four of 19 suspected hijackers may have participated during the 1990s in the base's flight training program for foreign military trainees, according to reports in The Washington Post and Newsweek magazine.


In addition, The New York Times reported that one of the four also may have lived at the Fountains apartment complex near the University of West Florida, leaving about a year ago.

http://prisonplanet.com/alleged_hija..._us_bases.html

Another of the alleged hijackers may have been trained in strategy and tactics at the Air War College in Montgomery, Ala., said another high-ranking Pentagon official. The fifth man may have received language instruction at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Tex. Both were former Saudi Air Force pilots who had come to the United States, according to the Pentagon source.
But there are slight discrepancies between the military training records and the official FBI list of suspected hijackers—either in the spellings of their names or with their birthdates. One military source said it is possible that the hijackers may have stolen the identities of the foreign nationals who studied at the U.S. installations.

the spelling of the names on atta's list of 19 has never changed or been updated, indeed the BBC and the Guardian have interviewed six or seven of the 'hijackers', including the owner of the passport found magically on the street. despite all that the same list exists with pictures of half a dozen proven alive people.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/story/0,,726814,00.html

Two of the hijackers who crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon were spotted as potential terrorists by the CIA more than 18 months before September 11, Newsweek reported yesterday. It called this "the most puzzling, and devastating,intelligence failure" in the period before attacks.

so many failures.

so many moles.

other newspaper links:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/911.html

[Moderator]

Alright guys, try to discuss the issue and keep the personal attacks to a minimum. And stay on topic please.

[Looger]

Originally Posted by transplant99

so......if i understand correctly.

I am a "sheep" if I believe that a man who had tried to (unsuccessfully) blow up the WTC on a previous occassion, realeased a tape saying he was behind the successful attempt, and also furnished a tape of himself and those known to have been on the plane that struck the WTC...planning said attacks and showing footage of how to overtake people to do so?

not one 'hijacker' has appeared on a flight manifest or an autopsy report.

not one.

[KevanGuy]

Even if the government did do it no one (edit: I don't mean NO one, I mean the vast majority of the public) would believe it. So whats the point?

[Looger]

Originally Posted by socalwingfan

^^^^ and he's wearing velcro gloves!!!

...that works a LOT better when you're actually pointing to the picture.

just letting ya know.

cause i am SO BURNED!

is it possible to be as stupid as you and actually operate your computer? do you need help? should we send someone so that they can feed you and clean up that mess in your pants?

[Looger]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

Even if the government did do it no one (edit: I don't mean NO one, I mean the vast majority of the public) would believe it. So whats the point?

i ask myself that every day.

people should really know. they really should.

[Frank the Tank]

Looger, you call people sheep because they believe it was a terrorist attack, but you believe everything in the opposite direction SO MUCH that you come across as a bigger "sheep" than any of could ever be. Just thought you should know.

And your avatar is incredibly offensive. For those of us who are "sheep".

[KevanGuy]

Originally Posted by Looger

i ask myself that every day.

people should really know. they really should.

Even if they did know (assuming you are right) they wouldn't believe it. That is my point. I dont get why guys like you go on and on and on and on about this.

[White Doors]

At first it's funny, then it's funny like watching the boss on 'The Office'.

[Looger]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

You look good . . . . . watch out, that's Looger coming up behind you!!!

Cowperson

brilliant addition to the discussion.

maybe you've got some insight on how iran is going to force jews to wear yellow stars?

what total bull**** propoganda news do you have for us today?

[Looger]

Originally Posted by White Doors

At first it's funny, then it's funny like watching the boss on 'The Office'.

at first i pitied you.

then i realized that the youth in this society is getting progressively more complacent and brainwashed.

then i pitied you even more.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Looger

...that works a LOT better when you're actually pointing to the picture.

just letting ya know.

cause i am SO BURNED!

is it possible to be as stupid as you and actually operate your computer? do you need help? should we send someone so that they can feed you and clean up that mess in your pants?

Did you not see the warning about cutting out the name calling?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Looger

not one 'hijacker' has appeared on a flight manifest or an autopsy report.

not one.

You mean that these guys who were about to commit the most heinous mass murder is US history might of used aliases to get airline tickets and used false ID to board the planes??

Stunning.

[FlamesAddiction]

I'm not convinced one way or the other, so I am not making a statement on whether they knew, or let it happen.

I was however looking at footage on youtube and was surprised to find that CNBC anchor stated on air on Sept 11th, that he thought the collapse of the towers was planned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhDOq...elated&search=

[Looger]

larry silverstein, the owner, in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds", says they 'pulled' it.

talk to the moderators if you take offense to my avatar. i'm offended by your avatar because it reminds me of how stupid you are, does that make me special?

MOD EDIT: Sorry, I accidentially edited this post instead of a reply, my mistake.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Looger

not one 'hijacker' has appeared on a flight manifest or an autopsy report.

not one.

Not true.



The supposed flight manifest used from CNN to make this claim isn't an actual manifest, but a partial list (and one that was being updated), and one that specifically didn't mention the hijackers.

And that they didn't show up in the final list of identified bodies doesn't mean they weren't there, it could mean that their remains couldn't be identified, couldn't be recovered, or weren't recovered from the plane but were recovered elsewhere. There were other people that also weren't on that list. If there's multiple possible answers to a question you can't just pick the one that supports your chosen view...

http://911myths.com/html/autopsy_list.html

http://911myths.com/html/missing_arabs.html

[Looger]

Originally Posted by transplant99

You mean that these guys who were about to commit the most heinous mass murder is US history might of used aliases to get airline tickets and used false ID to board the planes??

Stunning.

suicide terrorists always leave proof to gloat, but we'll just put that aside and think of this single anamoly - if they're fake names then how can a found passport on the street be proof?

[Looger]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Did you not see the warning about cutting out the name calling?

i always shoot back.

[transplant99]

suicide terrorists always leave proof to gloat,

And there they are in todays released tape....doing exactly that.

if they're fake names then how can a found passport on the street be proof?

No idea what this means.