10-27-2025, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chedder
Water is wet and delta bravo player is delta bravo in real life.
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Water is not wet. What water touches becomes wet.
The charges are not surprising given what he did in Vancouver when I lived there. I posted stories about him at the time but they were removed by CP mods as they didn’t want rumours on the site, even with evidence.
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He just seemed like a very nice person. I loved Squiggy.
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I should probably stop posting at this point
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10-27-2025, 11:58 PM
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#22
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Originally Posted by sarge
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Someone just filed a civil lawsuit against him.
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10-28-2025, 12:36 AM
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#23
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Hmm the description of the crime makes it sound serious but the penalty is pretty small, so there's a mixed message here.
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10-28-2025, 08:49 AM
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#24
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Don't know what he did or if he is guilty but I felt but it's not surprising that an unlikeable player could be an unlikeable person off the ice.
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10-28-2025, 09:07 AM
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#25
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Just when you thought that those Canucks teams were the most unlikable bunch, it gets way worse. I always hated the tumbleweed.
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10-28-2025, 09:30 AM
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electric boogaloo
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I always thought he lower the number the worse the degree, but the underage thing is bonkers. Idiot.
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10-28-2025, 09:37 AM
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#27
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
Hmm the description of the crime makes it sound serious but the penalty is pretty small, so there's a mixed message here.
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The crime wasn't described, the definitions of what it could be are vast based on the wording of fourth degree criminal misconduct.
Reading the link provided by Sureloss it could be anything from a grope to statutory rape.
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10-28-2025, 09:43 AM
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#28
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
The crime wasn't described, the definitions of what it could be are vast based on the wording of fourth degree criminal misconduct.
Reading the link provided by Sureloss it could be anything from a grope to statutory rape.
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Sure, but a max of 2 years or $500 is pretty skimpy.
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10-28-2025, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Not the point of the thread, but it's alarming that the legislation has to differentiate between people under 16 and people under 16 who are married to the alleged abuser. Yikes.
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10-28-2025, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by fotze2
I always thought he lower the number the worse the degree, but the underage thing is bonkers. Idiot.
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The higher the number, the less serious the offence. Fourth degree is the lowest in Michigan and is just a misdemeanor, not a felony.
It's unwanted touching of a vulnerable person.
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10-28-2025, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Sure, but a max of 2 years or $500 is pretty skimpy.
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Agreed, I think the 2 years is a much bigger deterrent than the $500 but then you get into income based punishment.
Kesler is a millionaire, $500 won't hurt him as much as a guy at 7-11.
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10-28-2025, 10:29 AM
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Why am I not surprised?
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10-28-2025, 10:30 AM
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#33
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Originally Posted by squiggs96
Water is not wet. What water touches becomes wet.
The charges are not surprising given what he did in Vancouver when I lived there. I posted stories about him at the time but they were removed by CP mods as they didn’t want rumours on the site, even with evidence.
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Go on. That was then, this is now.
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10-28-2025, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Icantwhisper
Agreed, I think the 2 years is a much bigger deterrent than the $500 but then you get into income based punishment.
Kesler is a millionaire, $500 won't hurt him as much as a guy at 7-11.
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The biggest impact for him would likely be that a conviction would make him a registered sex offender.
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10-28-2025, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Looks like the difference between 4th degree and 3rd degree is 3rd degree specifically states sexual penetration. 3rd degree is a max sentence of 15 years.
Also guessing that since the incident happened on January 1st, it is more likely that it involves someone who was drunk and couldn't consent than underage people, but we will likely now more at the probable cause hearing.
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10-28-2025, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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So I guess that makes him eligible to work in the Oilers organization.
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10-28-2025, 10:57 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by getbak
The biggest impact for him would likely be that a conviction would make him a registered sex offender.
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Agreed
If he cornered a server in a club and groped her, I'm satisfied with the registered sex offender tag. No one should be subject to unwanted anything, and therefore an appropriate tag to carry in perpetuity. If he groped a 15 year old at a house party, I hope he goes to jail.
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10-28-2025, 12:29 PM
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#39
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F'n gross. What a scumbag. A literal child.
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10-28-2025, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by AC
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So... sounds like that 41-year old man either tried to force himself on a 16-year old, or he tried to assault a teenager too drunk to resist, or both.
While I generally avoid having opinions about individual events like this, it's a little hard to imagine any version of this where Kesler isn't an absolute POS that should see some jailtime.
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