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Old 07-09-2024, 01:53 PM   #21
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I asked the leads who are part of the same group as I am at work what their views are when someone refers to a group as "guys" when there are women included as part of the group and I was surprised to hear that all the women were fine with it (many use "guys" themselves to refer to a group with both sexes), while some of the men in the group (myself included, but a minority of them) tended to use other terms like, "folks", "all" or "team". I'd wager though that we don't however have any leads in this same group who are under 30, and I'm wondering if maybe the results would be different if we did?
I had a nearly identical experience.

The group I was managing while I was still in Calgary were all women. We went through the DEI thing so started using 'Hey Team' in my emails to the group. My lead brought it up in our weekly meeting saying it sounded odd and what happened to guys? I told them it was from the DEI training that they were all about to go through and I was trying to do my part. In the end they much preferred guys to team, all or folks and threatened me with death if I used gals, or even worse ladies.

So they were my guys.
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Old 07-09-2024, 02:58 PM   #22
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Hey all ya’lls…
I’ve had several female leads and the “guys” terminology is extensively used. It’s not intended to exclude people and intended to be inclusive of all. It’s the slim majority that often choose to make something a something when no offense was intended. But awareness and respect is still required regardless.

So do I need to change the thread title to “any ya’all know some who can do xyz”? It’s much longer and doesn’t have the same vibe.
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Old 07-09-2024, 03:30 PM   #23
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Hey all ya’lls…
I’ve had several female leads and the “guys” terminology is extensively used. It’s not intended to exclude people and intended to be inclusive of all. It’s the slim majority that often choose to make something a something when no offense was intended. But awareness and respect is still required regardless.

So do I need to change the thread title to “any ya’all know a he/her/they/them who can do xyz”? It’s much longer and doesn’t have the same vibe.
Fixed it for you.

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