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Old 12-09-2022, 08:54 AM   #21
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:07 AM   #22
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What's with those xGF% from last game for Columbus?

The 4 lines were: 74%, 70%, 80% and 74%

You'd think they dominated BUF, based on that, not get blown out 9-4 and outshot 30-24. Not exactly a resounding endorsement of the stat
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What's with those xGF% from last game for Columbus?

The 4 lines were: 74%, 70%, 80% and 74%

You'd think they dominated BUF, based on that, not get blown out 9-4 and outshot 30-24. Not exactly a resounding endorsement of the stat
Shots weren't indicative.

High danger chances were 12-7 for Columbus (scoring chances 30-20), expected goals should have resulted in a 3-2 win.

Terrible goaltending.
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What's with those xGF% from last game for Columbus?

The 4 lines were: 74%, 70%, 80% and 74%

You'd think they dominated BUF, based on that, not get blown out 9-4 and outshot 30-24. Not exactly a resounding endorsement of the stat
17 minutes into the game it was 6-0 Sabres and the xGF was 83.6% Sabres.

Columbus goalies also let in 6.22 goals above expected, which is the worst goaltending performance I think I've ever seen.

Total xGF in the game ended up being 52/48 Columbus, with the Sabres goalie letting in 1 extra and the BJ goalies letting in 6 extra... lol
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17 minutes into the game it was 6-0 Sabres and the xGF was 83.6% Sabres.

Columbus goalies also let in 6.22 goals above expected, which is the worst goaltending performance I think I've ever seen.

Total xGF in the game ended up being 52/48 Columbus, with the Sabres goalie letting in 1 extra and the BJ goalies letting in 6 extra... lol
I mean I do believe the stats, but watching those Tag goals, they were mostly perfect one timer rockets . I’ll just continue not understanding advanced stats.
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I hope Phillips tries to drop the gloves with Johnny. Let’s get a 5’7 fight going
Okay that is one staged fight I would wanna see
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Okay that is one staged fight I would wanna see
Lol I imagine a Semin type slap fight
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I'm just glad Phillips is playing tonight

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Old 12-09-2022, 09:38 AM   #30
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Seeing all the updates from Calgary media in Columbus, I assume they sent everyone to cover the first game against Gaudreau lol
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:39 AM   #31
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Anything less than 6 goals tonight would be considered a failure.
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I mean I do believe the stats, but watching those Tag goals, they were mostly perfect one timer rockets . I’ll just continue not understanding advanced stats.
These are just models

There was an early goal that squeaked through, but at least 7 of 9 were not really particularly on the goalie

One main thing to remember is that advanced stats absolutely do not factor in shot placement, in any way. Given the same preceding events, a blast in to the goalie’s crest has the same xGF contribution as a shot that goes in off the iron, top corner

Secondly, the number of shots taken in a single game is far smaller than the number of shots on which these models are built, so statistical significance comes in to play. (When they say things like 93 percent confidence 19 times out of 20, games like this can be the other 1 out of 20)

Columbus had some egregious turnovers. Buffalo had time and space on a few, with some wicked shots. They also had really good puck movement on their 5 on 3… Merzlikins looked like he wasn’t particularly square when it went in, but it’s understandable when you see the several puck moves immediately prior

There was a goal over the shoulder from that dead puck area, right around the decision point, where he commits to the RVH and lives with the result. A generally accepted play, and perfectly placed shot

xGF is great because people understand what it is trying to say. But it’s far from perfect
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Switch out Lucic with Zohorna and that might actually be a good line
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:42 AM   #34
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I'm just glad Phillips is playing tonight
4th line

At least put him on PP2 or something.
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:44 AM   #35
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Gaudreau wouldn't even produce on a line with this seasons Lucic / Lewis

Best to keep expectations extremely low and hope he gets a look on PP2
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I'm worried about this game. Columbus isn't good and were blown out last game. Gaudreau will have extra incentive on top of the team wanted to redeem themselves. Perfect trap game.

Flames win 5-1
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:46 AM   #37
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What are people expecting? Winners of 4 of 5 and the top 3 lines are clicking but yeah let's shuffle all the lines to fit in one guy because the last time the lines were all shuffled it went so well.

Mangiapane started on the 4th line and fought his way up the line up. Phillips will have to do the same.
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What are people expecting? Winners of 4 of 5 and the top 3 lines are clicking but yeah let's shuffle all the lines to fit in one guy because the last time the lines were all shuffled it went so well.
I was hoping Lucic out and literally anyone else in.
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Old 12-09-2022, 09:51 AM   #39
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don't forget back to back games too...somebody different is likely coming out tomorrow
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Flames are headed to Columbus for a matchup against Johnny Hockey...
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