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Old 12-09-2021, 12:34 PM   #21
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I mean, given what they said about Valimaki needing to play a lot this make sense. But why bring him back? Did they think Kylington was hurt worse than he was?
Odd.
Well yesterday was off ice workout day. So likely someone tweaked something then and is questionable for tonight.
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Old 12-09-2021, 12:47 PM   #22
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Did valimaki actually get brought back? Flying Stockton-Calgary and back again in 2 days. What a pain in the ass.
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I mean, given what they said about Valimaki needing to play a lot this make sense. But why bring him back? Did they think Kylington was hurt worse than he was?
Odd.
They mentioned that during the game, didn’t they? There was a thought that Kylington might not be able to play.
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Old 12-09-2021, 12:52 PM   #24
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They mentioned that during the game, didn’t they? There was a thought that Kylington might not be able to play.
There was speculation based around him not taking the morning skate. Unsure if it was brought up that he was nursing anything.

But he played. And they still flew Valimaki back to Canada. Then will send him to Stockton tonight. Seemed odd. Unless Kylington still wasn't 100% (his play might have suggested that) or even Zadorov is hurting. sureLoss seemed to be suggesting that someone else could have been banged up.
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I can’t be the only one doing this, so to save others the hassle.
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Here's the likely explanation for the weird yo-yo with Valimaki this week: https://calgaryherald.com/sports/hoc...-covid-19-test


Kylington had a false positive COVID test on Tuesday morning before the San Jose game. He was finally cleared to play only a couple of hours before the game.
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Old 12-10-2021, 09:33 PM   #27
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Valimaki didn't play in the Stockton/Tucson game tonight. Immigration issues, apparently.
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Old 12-11-2021, 12:04 AM   #28
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Is it just rapid tests that have false positives? I was told by two different healthcare workers that false positives are basically impossible, but false negatives are somewhat common.
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Old 12-11-2021, 12:55 AM   #29
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Any test can have false positives. An article at The Conversation suggests, based on Australian data, that the RT-PCR test has a false positive rate of about 4 percent. Estimates of false negatives range from 1.8 all the way to 58 percent, but a lot of those numbers come from low-quality studies, so the best we can say is that we don't really know.

The thing is, COVID is not highly prevalent; to this day, most people have never contracted it. Of those countries where good records are available, the highest rate of cumulative cases is in the neighbourhood of 20 percent. Of course, the active cases at any given time are far fewer.

In Canada, about 1.8 million cases have been recorded, with about 33,000 being active at present. That second number is 0.1 percent of the population. If you tested everybody and had a 4 percent false-positive rate, the false positives alone would be nearly as many as the cumulative total number of cases, and over 40 times as many as the actual number of active cases! (In fact, the rate of positive tests is running at about 3.7 percent, which is almost exactly what you would find if everyone was COVID-negative. This suggests that a single COVID test is not a very useful diagnostic instrument.)

So no, they're not impossible, and they're not even rare. But it really won't do for the authorities to admit as much, because they are basing their policies on the assumption that all positive tests represent real COVID cases. A good many of the official proclamations, on this as on other subjects, are coloured by officials' need to deny their mistakes or cover their arses.
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