06-02-2021, 09:33 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Flames will get #1 this year
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06-02-2021, 10:41 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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A big 2.2 pts tonight.
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06-02-2021, 10:44 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Guys.
Guys.
We all know the Oilers are going to win this somehow.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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06-02-2021, 10:47 AM
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#24
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I'm assuming you mean "waste" our luck to draft first overall, since each lottery is independent of results of one another (the new rule of not winning more than 2 consecutive doesn't start till next year).
If that's what you mean, then I'm the opposite. As a Flames fan, I take any luck we can get. Because you know if we don't win this one, we aren't winning the one next year or the year after that either. Flames are fated to never win a draft lottery until proven otherwise. Maybe winning this year kicks of a string of good luck for the next few years.
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Its called Oiler's Law: win one lottery and you'll win the next 2 as well
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06-02-2021, 10:47 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Let's pretend the Flames win the lottery and get a 1st or 2nd pick - does that make them more willing to go full rebuild?
You get to put a top 2 pick in your back pocket. So then you go out and trade your top players for picks and prospects, and tank your way to another top 3 pick.
Bam, pretty quick restock.
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06-02-2021, 11:06 AM
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#26
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: VanCity
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I think if we win the lottery the best move is to try trading down a few spots. The draft is already a crapshoot and I just don't see any one player as consensus franchise changing pick.
Perhaps trading with Seattle so they take whoever we tell them in the expansion draft.
To Seattle 1st overall
To Calgary 4th overall + Seattle takes player Flames decide in expansion draft
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06-02-2021, 11:10 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genetic_phreek
I think if we win the lottery the best move is to try trading down a few spots. The draft is already a crapshoot and I just don't see any one player as consensus franchise changing pick.
Perhaps trading with Seattle so they take whoever we tell them in the expansion draft.
To Seattle 1st overall
To Calgary 4th overall + Seattle takes player Flames decide in expansion draft
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Not a chance, unless they agree to take Lucic. Even then, not sure I would do that.
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06-02-2021, 11:11 AM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Let's pretend the Flames win the lottery and get a 1st or 2nd pick - does that make them more willing to go full rebuild?
You get to put a top 2 pick in your back pocket. So then you go out and trade your top players for picks and prospects, and tank your way to another top 3 pick.
Bam, pretty quick restock.
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I don't think it would have any impact beyond having better prospect depth.
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Originally Posted by snipetype
k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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06-02-2021, 11:16 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Winning the lotto in this draft would be amazing. Getting your pick of the litter and not worrying about what's left to take would be a good feeling. IMO any one of the top 7 or 8 could go #1 depending on organizational preference. Each person in the top ten each have exceptional qualities. Definitely a draft to address a specific need.
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06-02-2021, 11:24 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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What are the scenarios where the Flames can advance some spots?
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06-02-2021, 11:28 AM
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
What are the scenarios where the Flames can advance some spots?
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If we win either of the 2 lottery draws. We can also potentially move back 1 or 2 spots if teams with worse odds win the lottery, pushing everyone else back.
We can pick 1st (2.2%), 2nd (2.4%), 12th (87%), 13th (8.4%), or 14th (0.1%).
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06-02-2021, 11:29 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Never been less interested in a draft lottery or draft for that matter. It doesn’t feel like there is a game changer at the top of this draft or even a firm top tier. I hope the hockey gods delay the flames lotto luck down the road or can just give the team more puck luck next season
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06-02-2021, 11:33 AM
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#34
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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You mean you don't want to to hear 16 stories about good luck charms? There is no pleasing some people.
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06-02-2021, 11:54 AM
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#35
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Farther away from the Dome than I'd like
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I suppose the good news is we will know in the first 10 minutes whether the flames moved up, down or stayed put.
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06-02-2021, 11:57 AM
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#36
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by jessnuts
I suppose the good news is we will know in the first 10 minutes whether the flames moved up, down or stayed put.
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If the NHL Network or NBC leaks the draw results early like what happened a few years ago, yeah you'll know well before 10 minutes into the show. Otherwise they will pad the first 25 minutes and then you'll know with about 5 minutes left.
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06-02-2021, 12:08 PM
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#37
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Farther away from the Dome than I'd like
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
If the NHL Network or NBC leaks the draw results early like what happened a few years ago, yeah you'll know well before 10 minutes into the show. Otherwise they will pad the first 25 minutes and then you'll know with about 5 minutes left.
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I was just assuming that they'll get the first 5-8 picks done quickly thinking they will stay put and lack excitement. Then the American idle style good luck stories and Ron MacLean NHL family tree recaps will start.
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06-02-2021, 12:09 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Never been less interested in a draft lottery or draft for that matter. It doesn’t feel like there is a game changer at the top of this draft or even a firm top tier. I hope the hockey gods delay the flames lotto luck down the road or can just give the team more puck luck next season
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that's not how it works
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06-02-2021, 12:09 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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If the Flames win this lottery I'm still not sure we even make the pick.
It probably becomes a top trade chip in discussions to trade for Eichel.
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06-02-2021, 12:16 PM
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#40
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jessnuts
I was just assuming that they'll get the first 5-8 picks done quickly thinking they will stay put and lack excitement. Then the American idle style good luck stories and Ron MacLean NHL family tree recaps will start.
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This is why I joked about all the good luck charm stories. Seems they always fill the first 3/4 of the show with crud.
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