05-27-2021, 11:29 AM
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#21
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Just another reason Oilers fans suck. They have always been a spiteful fan base.
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Unfortunately, I don't think any fan base in Canada is above having a few dimwit idiots that would do such a thing.
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05-27-2021, 11:34 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
And anonymity. Make every social media account verified.
You need to have the blue checkmark on Twitter before you can participate, etc.
Let's see how many people have the guts to out themselves as hateful #######s when there are real-world associations and consequences.
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If 2016-present has taught me anything, it's that vile and despicable people have absolutely no problem posting racist BS on Twitter under their own name. They revel in it. Many of them even put "Deplorable" in their profile description like it's a badge of honour.
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05-27-2021, 12:19 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Saw it last night. Good for him for calling people out and standing up for himself.
It’s sad that he should have to do that. But that’s what the internet brings sometimes. Free speech with zero accountability. Lets people hide behind a keyboard.
Bet they wouldn’t say those things to his face.
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05-27-2021, 12:32 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Is this racicism because he made a bad outlet pass or is it ongoing?
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05-27-2021, 12:49 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
Unfortunately, I don't think any fan base in Canada is above having a few dimwit idiots that would do such a thing.
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That is true but we are talking about a fan base that is very overbearing with players and burned Pronger's rental furniture.
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05-27-2021, 12:53 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Ethan Bear is a good young Hockey Player. / end thread...
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05-27-2021, 03:12 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Good for him for speaking out. It needs to be called out every time, but too often people feel like they don't want to rock the boat. His statement eloquently made the point that it can't be tolerated, but he also emphasized the good in people and unity.
As a player, he went through some growing pains this year, but I think he has a the potential to have a long productive career.
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05-27-2021, 03:48 PM
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#28
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I love CP but the amount of hate spewed, tolerated and even encouraged on CP is disgusting. Perhaps many CP posters think they are doing it 'in fun'. Or that it's justified or whatever other reasoning that promotes a culture of hate.
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05-27-2021, 03:51 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
I love CP but the amount of hate spewed, tolerated and even encouraged on CP is disgusting. Perhaps many CP posters think they are doing it 'in fun'. Or that it's justified or whatever other reasoning that promotes a culture of hate.
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Okay. Thats a pretty strong take in a thread that seems completely unified in support of a player during a difficult time regardless of the fact that he plays for our most hated rival.
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05-27-2021, 04:00 PM
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#30
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
And anonymity. Make every social media account verified.
You need to have the blue checkmark on Twitter before you can participate, etc.
Let's see how many people have the guts to out themselves as hateful #######s when there are real-world associations and consequences.
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Sadly, you would be surprised how many.
It's pretty well known that Lethbridge has it's fair share of drug issues, and the number of people who comment on facebook with their real names that those users need to go back to the reserve and die there is absolutely disgusting.
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05-27-2021, 04:41 PM
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#31
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
Okay. Thats a pretty strong take in a thread that seems completely unified in support of a player during a difficult time regardless of the fact that he plays for our most hated rival.
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Unified support of a player because of racism seems rather hypocritical when this forum actively engages in hate. Whether it's individuals, teams, cities, etc.
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05-27-2021, 04:49 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
Unified support of a player because of racism seems rather hypocritical when this forum actively engages in hate. Whether it's individuals, teams, cities, etc.
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Can you really not see the difference between hating on a hockey team and being a racist jackass or are you really that thick?
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05-27-2021, 05:00 PM
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#33
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N-E-B
Can you really not see the difference between hating on a hockey team and being a racist jackass or are you really that thick?
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Pretty big difference.
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05-27-2021, 05:01 PM
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#34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
Unified support of a player because of racism seems rather hypocritical when this forum actively engages in hate. Whether it's individuals, teams, cities, etc.
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No good point can come from comparing racism to hating on a rival team/city.
Intentional or not, you're reducing the impact of racism to something comparable to good-natured fun in team sports, since no one in their right mind is going to buy the idea that hating on the Oilers is as morally horrible as being a racist.
This is a terrible post.
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05-27-2021, 05:04 PM
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#35
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Crash and Bang Winger
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No need to insult... there's enough of that going around.
I'm commenting on the acceptance on CP for a variety of hate.
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05-27-2021, 05:08 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
No need to insult... there's enough of that going around.
I'm commenting on the acceptance on CP for a variety of hate.
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I think if you can't tell the difference between sporting rivalries and disgusting racial hatred that's on you.
When you compare the two it trivializes the racism, IMO.
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05-27-2021, 05:15 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
No need to insult... there's enough of that going around.
I'm commenting on the acceptance on CP for a variety of hate.
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You've just accused an entire community of expressing hate. I expect you're prepared to back that up without conflating racial and ethnic hatred with sports fanaticism.
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05-27-2021, 05:19 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ToraToraTora
Sadly, you would be surprised how many.
It's pretty well known that Lethbridge has it's fair share of drug issues, and the number of people who comment on facebook with their real names that those users need to go back to the reserve and die there is absolutely disgusting.
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There will always be the David Dukes and Kevin Johnstons of the world, but there is plenty of hatred spread under false aliases, especially on Twitter. Verifying every single account might reduce the volume, but you're right: people unashamed of their hatefulness will never just go away.
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05-27-2021, 06:05 PM
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#39
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
No need to insult... there's enough of that going around.
I'm commenting on the acceptance on CP for a variety of hate.
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What examples can you think of for a "variety of hate" that we as most CPers partake in? I am not a hateful person but I can hate on another player from another team for their actions in sport. Comparing that to racism is a reach. Sorry but I don't come to CP because I like to join in on the "hate" that is going around, this is BS.
Terrible post.
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05-27-2021, 06:24 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alnigi
I love CP but the amount of hate spewed, tolerated and even encouraged on CP is disgusting. Perhaps many CP posters think they are doing it 'in fun'. Or that it's justified or whatever other reasoning that promotes a culture of hate.
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Yeah.
Gonna need some examples with citations of “hate” being tolerated on CP.
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