03-19-2021, 09:05 AM
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He also stated that McDavid could not play another minute this season and would STILL finish the season as point per game player.
This is not a case of the media just spouting about the league's next budding star. They are talking about the most prolific point producer on the planet.
We don't have to love hearing about it all the time, but the media admiration is completely justified in my opinion.
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03-19-2021, 09:08 AM
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#22
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Originally Posted by troutman
Because we liked it. When he was the best player in the league, he was under the spotlight a lot.
Oiler fans have been complaining this month about how much the media is talking about Darryl.
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I suppose I didn't pay attention to the national media back then as much as I do now, so I'll take your word for it.
In fairness, I remember the media praising him during the Cup run, and rightfully so. But when he was putting up insanely good seasons, and taking out his own trash on a regular basis, it was ho-hum as far as I remember from media. They clung to their stars of yesteryear.
I'll never get over the fact that Iggy is not in the NHL 100, and I can't help to think that the lack of media spotlight during his career maybe led to the omission.
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03-19-2021, 09:09 AM
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#23
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Looking forward to getting back to the old alignment next year.
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03-19-2021, 09:09 AM
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#24
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Everyone hold hands and chant together; "Five more years", "Five more years", "Five more years". It's unbearable but it won't last forever. We may even come to like him when he's playing on an American team.
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I hate the oilers but watching McDavid play is something else. He is fun to watch.
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03-19-2021, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I honestly don't recall the national media fawning over him like this.
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
I suppose I didn't pay attention to the national media back then as much as I do now, so I'll take your word for it.
In fairness, I remember the media praising him during the Cup run, and rightfully so. But when he was putting up insanely good seasons, and taking out his own trash on a regular basis, it was ho-hum as far as I remember from media. They clung to their stars of yesteryear.
I'll never get over the fact that Iggy is not in the NHL 100, and I can't help to think that the lack of media spotlight during his career maybe led to the omission.
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I think you are miss remembering.
There was a time whe Iggy was the face of league.
At Troutman said, he was sought out for interviews north and south of the border.
His studliness was acknowledged far and wide.
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03-19-2021, 09:18 AM
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It is truly a dark timeline for Flames fans.
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03-19-2021, 09:30 AM
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Friedman is good.
McDavid is no good.
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03-19-2021, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
It is truly a dark timeline for Flames fans.
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Well at least we are well conditioned for times like this. I still have doubts that he can bring a cup to Edmonton and Flames fans will have the last laugh when he raises a cup for his next team.
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03-19-2021, 09:34 AM
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Location: Calgary, AB
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I love Iggy but he was never “The face of the league” in the same vein as guys like Crosby, Ovechkin, or McDavid.
He had a 3 to 4 year stretch where maybe he was considered the best player in the league (2002-2006) but he was never on the level of one of the generational type talents.
Even then I don’t think he was the unanimous best player in the league. Guys like Sakic, Forsberg, Thornton, St.Louis, Naslund, Sundin, Jagr, all have similar or better point totals in that time, won individual awards, or won cups.
That was the period where the NHL didn’t really have a generational talent playing that was the face of the league. Gretzky had retired in 1999. Lemieux was around but not consistently playing. Crosby hadn’t started until 2006.
Honestly if I had to pick the guys that were the face of the league in that time it was Sakic and Yzerman as the faces of the epic battles Colorado and Detroit had in that era.
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03-19-2021, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Well at least we are well conditioned for times like this. I still have doubts that he can bring a cup to Edmonton and Flames fans will have the last laugh when he raises a cup for his next team.
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I guess the silver lining in all of this could be that Edmonton is so bad that even one of the best players of all time couldn't win them a Cup.
Or at least I hope.
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03-19-2021, 09:41 AM
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I thought it was rich when he claimed there was egg on the voter's face for not voting him for Hart in years previous when he himself has argued, and rightly so, that he shouldn't win it in non playoff years (80% of his career so far). Which is it Elliott?
He's a great player having a career year. No doubt, but until he wins something or even just consistently leads his team to the playoffs, there will always be this uncomfortable cloud that follows him. Why isn't his team winning more?
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03-19-2021, 09:43 AM
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I'm worried for Rejean's health. Every time I see a post of his he's angry.
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03-19-2021, 09:45 AM
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#33
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
I guess the silver lining in all of this could be that Edmonton is so bad that even one of the best players of all time couldn't win them a Cup.
Or at least I hope.
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My worry is these new NHL TV deals might let them get a cup in Edmonton.
If the cap goes up post Covid then the Oilers will be able to add some pieces, and they’ve been drafting much better recently under Holland than under Chiapet.
The big hope needs to be them having an early playoff failure again this year and then he gets fed up and asks for a trade.
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03-19-2021, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Major Major
I thought it was rich when he claimed there was egg on the voter's face for not voting him for Hart in years previous when he himself has argued, and rightly so, that he shouldn't win it in non playoff years (80% of his career so far). Which is it Elliott?
He's a great player having a career year. No doubt, but until he wins something or even just consistently leads his team to the playoffs, there will always be this uncomfortable cloud that follows him. Why isn't his team winning more?
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Well yeah. That uncomfortable cloud is the shape of the Oilers logo. It's a big part of the Oilers tale of futility that the best player on the earth still can't move the needle for them. Nobody in the hockey world respects the way the Oilers got him and nobody wants them to win a cup (okay Rogers does for TV ratings). Like I keep saying we are all going to like him a lot more when he's playing for a different team.
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03-19-2021, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
My worry is these new NHL TV deals might let them get a cup in Edmonton.
If the cap goes up post Covid then the Oilers will be able to add some pieces, and they’ve been drafting much better recently under Holland than under Chiapet.
The big hope needs to be them having an early playoff failure again this year and then he gets fed up and asks for a trade.
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I think you have to hope that McDavid is handing career seasons to both Nurse and Barrie, forcing higher costs to re-sign them.
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03-19-2021, 09:53 AM
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#36
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Jordan!
He's the best player to ever play the game in my opinion.
He'd get around 300 points a year if he played in the 80s
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If he played in the 80's, a Scott Steven's type dman would have ended his career pretty early, with how he drives to the net.
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03-19-2021, 09:53 AM
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What we should really be mad at is how broken the NHL is..
Why has history repeated itself and organizations like Edmonton and Pittsburgh get generational talents twice in a 20-30 year span?
They each got to enjoy watching and winning multiple times with Gretzky and Lemieux as the dominate forces in the league only for the broken system to allow the same organizations to get another round of generational talents in McDavid and Crosby.
Lemieux and Crosby’s tenures overlapped for frigg sake.
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03-19-2021, 09:56 AM
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#38
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Originally Posted by troutman
Because we liked it. When he was the best player in the league, he was under the spotlight a lot.
Oiler fans have been complaining this month about how much the media is talking about Darryl.
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Come on, Iginla was never the consensus best player in the league. He was never talked about as the best player to ever play the game. The media attention on McDavid is unprecedented in the NHL... Crosby back in the early 2000s is the closest comparable but it's not on the same level as McDavid... I'm not even saying it is unearned, but you can't compare McDavid with Iginla when it comes to media coverage... it isn't even in the same universe.
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03-19-2021, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Well yeah. That uncomfortable cloud is the shape of the Oilers logo. It's a big part of the Oilers tale of futility that the best player on the earth still can't move the needle for them. Nobody in the hockey world respects the way the Oilers got him and nobody wants them to win a cup (okay Rogers does for TV ratings). Like I keep saying we are all going to like him a lot more when he's playing for a different team.
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When Luongo left the Canucks he quickly became one of my favorite non-Flames. It was an amazing 180.
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03-19-2021, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I love Iggy but he was never “The face of the league” in the same vein as guys like Crosby, Ovechkin, or McDavid.
He had a 3 to 4 year stretch where maybe he was considered the best player in the league (2002-2006) but even then He was never on the level of one of the generational type talents.
Even then I don’t think he was the unanimous best player in the league. Guys like Sakic, Forsberg, Thornton, St.Louis, Naslund, Sundin, Jagr, all have similar or better point totals in that time.
That was the period where the NHL didn’t really have a generational talent playing that was the face of the league. Gretzky had retired in 1999. Lemieux was around but not consistently playing. Crosby hadn’t started until 2006.
Honestly if I had to pick the guys that were the face of the league in that time it was Sakic and Yzerman as the faces of the epic battles Colorado and Detroit had in that era.
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Which is truly a shame. He was a pure superstar for every year he was a flame. I feel like his legendary status has increased even further, at least in my biased view in that, he was the last true power forward, who could burn you with his scoring ability, blow a player up with a hit, and fight against anyone in the league.
There will never ever ever be another Iginla in the NHL, especially in how fast this game's trajectory is headed to a Kleenex-soft game.
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