All-Time vs Active Points Leaders by Franchise

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Zethrynn

I find it amazing that Toronto doesn’t have someone over 1000 points

Inept franchise that boots players too soon?

Agreed though.

[Winsor_Pilates]

2 stood out to me. Toronto with no one over 1000 as already pointed out and Oli Jokinen the highest on Florida. They haven't had a very good franchise.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by codynw

Did you just suggest that Bergeron might pass Borque in points? I'm a Bergeron superfan. I have one of his jerseys hanging on my wall, but there's no way in hell. He's 33 years old and he doesn't even have half of Borque's point total.

I think there again I was looking at the wrong column. But I also thought he was a little younger and had some more time (and is a froward versus defenceman).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

2 stood out to me. Toronto with no one over 1000 as already pointed out and Oli Jokinen the highest on Florida. They haven't had a very good franchise.

Fla has had pretty bad luck at the draft. Just missed Kariya in their first one and ended up with Rob Neidermayer . Got the first overall the next year, but a really weak draft and they took Jovo (a proper pick). Picked Radek Dvorak one before missing on Iggy the next year (but at number 10 it's kind of a pick 'em).

Then they were not bad enough to get good picks for a while. When they dropped again, their high picks were in weak drafts (01, 02) or they were one or two picks behind a much better player (Staal versus Horton, Wheeler versus Olesz).

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

What’s with the asterisk for Rod Gilbert?

Hockey reference used those to indicate who has made the HHOF. I removed em all but that one I guess.

[troutman]

Bourque scored a crazy amount of points for a d-man.


https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...s-leaders.html

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Wheeler will pass Kovalchuk for the Jets for sure. Man in 8 years did that guy every fill the net up though.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by troutman

Bourque scored a crazy amount of points for a d-man.


https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...s-leaders.html

d PPG list is interesting. 3 former Flames feature quite high. Bourque just below the two point per game guys Orr and Coffey and then Potvin




https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...e-leaders.html

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by troutman

Bourque scored a crazy amount of points for a d-man.


https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/reco...s-leaders.html

Yea he did, I did notice however Coffey's numbers are actually quite better.. surprisingly enough (i had no idea)

203 less games played vs Bourque and only 48 pts behind and almost 800 more penalty minutes as well.
Crazy to think had he been healthy, he could have the lead by over 130+ points more if kept at his 1ppg pace.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by PegCityFlamesFan

Wheeler will pass Kovalchuk for the Jets for sure. Man in 8 years did that guy every fill the net up though.

Hawerchuk had 929 points as a Jet (franchise became Coyotes).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Yea he did, I did notice however Coffey's numbers are actually quite better.. surprisingly enough (i had no idea)

203 less games played vs Bourque and only 48 pts behind and almost 800 more penalty minutes as well.
Crazy to think had he been healthy, he could have the lead by over 130+ points more if kept at his 1ppg pace.

Coffey was way more offensive minded (to a fault) plus he played with much more offensive minded teams.

And he played 6 years with some guy who scored 200 points 4 times (and never less than 183), plus a few other good players. Then he goes and plays on a team with another guy who scores 168, 199, 123 (in 59 games), 45 (in 23 games) and 131 (plus a few other good players). Then he goes and joins the first guy (and a few other good players) on a new team. Then he plays with Steve Y, Sergei F and the rest of the stacked Wings. Oh, and then goes and plays with Eric Lindros and Ron Francis to wind up the old career.

Playing from age 19 until 39 doesn't hurt.

[PegCityFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by troutman

Hawerchuk had 929 points as a Jet (franchise became Coyotes).

Oh I agree. When the Coyotes retired his jersey it was a nice gesture but no one had a clue who the hell he was.