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Old 06-29-2018, 04:50 PM   #21
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This reminds me of Bollig all over again. We don't need to risk overpaying another tough guy 4th liner who just had an above average year on a cup contrnder
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This pisses me off more than it should, I was cautiously optimistic we'd get to see him bash Lucic's face in wearing Flames colours

At least we’ve still got Troy Brouwer to skate gingerly away from trouble. That oughta teach ‘em!
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This pisses me off more than it should, I was cautiously optimistic we'd get to see him bash Lucic's face in wearing Flames colours
Ok I will admit that it I'd love to see that too
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:10 PM   #24
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Having a good tough 4th liner isn't the reason you lose hockey games either.

Having one of your top 3 Dmen out with a concussion for 2-3 months is though.
Actually it can. You lose games by scoring less than the other team.

Having a tough guy on the bench has zero affect on whether a player gets injured during the course of play.

Antiquated thinking here.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:14 PM   #25
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See, no self respecting good team would want a guy like Reaves around right? Not a good, deep, 109 point SC finalist eh? Naw, he's trash. No room for him on a good deep roster.
Vegas must know something fans and other teams don't
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:15 PM   #26
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At least we’ve still got Troy Brouwer to skate gingerly away from trouble. That oughta teach ‘em!
I think there’s a lot to criticize about Brouwer’s play/usage/pay etc. but failing to standup for teammates is unfounded

Weird player on the roster to pick
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:18 PM   #27
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2nd half of last year brouwer had a broken jaw/facemask as an excuse for standing by idly watching his teammates get pounded/poked after whistles, sure

What's the excuse for the rest of the time he's been a flame? Doesn't seem odd to me to point out as brouwer doesn't mix it up or come to anyone's aid
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Actually it can. You lose games by scoring less than the other team.

Having a tough guy on the bench has zero affect on whether a player gets injured during the course of play.

Antiquated thinking here.
The nhl is not figure skating quite yet, he can skate and play a 4th line shift and hits like a tank, he brings a lot this team is lacking. The west is a heavy conference and we are a light team.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:23 PM   #29
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Good. Didn’t want him here.
Except now we'll go get someone who isn't as good to fill the same role
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Yeah this pretty much kills the “but why are good teams not trying to keep him, it’s a sign!” narrative.
Don't care about the narratives as we haven't heard the terms of the contract yet. Glad he's not going to be a Flame as sometimes GM's need a little help from other teams when it comes to avoiding regretful decisions.
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Having a good tough 4th liner isn't the reason you lose hockey games either.

Having one of your top 3 Dmen out with a concussion for 2-3 months is though.
There is something wrong with the game if you need a face puncher to avoid concussions to key players.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:59 PM   #32
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At least we’ve still got Troy Brouwer to skate gingerly away from trouble. That oughta teach ‘em!
I dislike Brower on our team as much as the next guy. But I think he showed plenty of toughness when needed. If you hate on Brower at least get it right.
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I think there’s a lot to criticize about Brouwer’s play/usage/pay etc. but failing to standup for teammates is unfounded

Weird player on the roster to pick
Should’ve scrolled down before responding but this.

He sucks in a number of ways but being a bad teammate simply is untrue.

Although calling in sick a lot of nights would improve the team so meh.
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There is something wrong with the game if you need a face puncher to avoid concussions to key players.
Yes, but?
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Old 06-29-2018, 06:19 PM   #35
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I was livid seeing Minnesota take 15+ hacks before they fractured Johnny's wrist without anyone responding

that's not "antiquated" thinking; i guarantee a guy like Reaves would not have let that happen if he was on the team...
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I was livid seeing Minnesota take 15+ hacks before they fractured Johnny's wrist without anyone responding

that's not "antiquated" thinking; i guarantee a guy like Reaves would not have let that happen if he was on the team...
You going to strap Reaves to Johnny’s arm? A tough is never a deterrent. It’s just a fabricated illusion fans make up.
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You going to strap Reaves to Johnny’s arm? A tough is never a deterrent. It’s just a fabricated illusion fans make up.
And an illusion some GMs apparently buy into, if the rumors of Reeves being a sought after target by a number of teams around the NHL and if the rumors of VGK signing him are correct...
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:28 PM   #38
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See, no self respecting good team would want a guy like Reaves around right? Not a good, deep, 109 point SC finalist eh? Naw, he's trash. No room for him on a good deep roster.
It's not that he is trash. But I'm still glad he didn't sign here. Coming of a good playoff run, I suspect the financial terms will be shown to be excessive. Kind of like when we signed Brouwer: that was my fear with Reaves. Over pay, over term, and it becomes a massive regret in 2 seasons.

There are lots of players that can add to team toughness. And maybe we can find some that also add to team skill.
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:30 PM   #39
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I'd bet he took less money to stay with the Knights. I don't think they'd overpay for him; doesn't seem like their style
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Old 06-29-2018, 07:35 PM   #40
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You going to strap Reaves to Johnny’s arm? A tough is never a deterrent. It’s just a fabricated illusion fans make up.
Spoken like someone who has never played hockey beyond bantam.
Having a big boy who hits like a tank and will punish you for taking liberties is most definitely a deterrent.
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