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View Poll Results: Best prospect from the following list?
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Austin Carroll
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Dillon Dube
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30 |
7.98% |
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Zach Fischer
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Spencer Foo
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18.35% |
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Adam Fox
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53.72% |
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Garnet Hathaway
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0.53% |
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Josh Healey
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0% |
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D'Artagnan Joly
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0% |
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Pavel Karnaukhov
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0% |
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Morgan Klimchuk
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0.27% |
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Brett Kulak
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16 |
4.26% |
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Linus Lindstrom
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0% |
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Ryan Lomberg
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0% |
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Andrew Mangiapane
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17 |
4.52% |
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Mitchell Mattson
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0% |
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Mason McDonald
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0% |
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Adam Ollas-Mattsson
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0.27% |
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Matthew Phillips
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1.06% |
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Emile Poirier
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14 |
3.72% |
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Brett Pollock
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0% |
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Daniel Pribyl
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0% |
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Rushan Rafikov
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0% |
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David Rittich
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16 |
4.26% |
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Adam Ruzicka
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0% |
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Nick Schneider
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0% |
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Hunter Shinkaruk
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4 |
1.06% |
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Hunter Smith
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0% |
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Fililp Sveniingsson
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0% |
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Eetu Tuulola
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0% |
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Tyler Wotherspoon
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07-11-2017, 01:40 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Went with Dube. I think Fox has higher upside but also a fairly big "miss" potential for me. Maybe it's a size thing. Dube seems like he has the stuff to be a regular NHLer, though not a star.
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07-11-2017, 02:20 PM
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#22
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by GGG
He is the best NCAA freshmen defensemen since Leetch
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Highest scoring does not necessarily equal best. Points do not tell us much about how well he can defend.
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07-11-2017, 02:26 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Can't believe Fox is still on the board.
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07-11-2017, 02:34 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Highest scoring does not necessarily equal best. Points do not tell us much about how well he can defend.
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This is what his coach had to say about his overall play.
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"The impact that he has had as a freshman here has been unbelievable," Donato said Tuesday. "Offensively, he is so dynamic, and his hockey IQ and puck skills are really amongst the best that there is in college hockey. He makes big plays in big games and makes the players around him that much better. We actually tell the guys not to watch him because he plays with such feel that he makes it look easy out there. He's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
"Everyone talks about his offensive game, but his defensive game is pretty good, too. He has a good stick and he's always making high-end plays. He might not have the prototypical NHL size (5-foot-10, 185 pounds), but we thought he was the best defenseman coming into college hockey this year, and he's certainly played up to that level.''
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So not the strength of his game by any means but I think his defensive issues and skating issues have been overstated on Calgarypuck.
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07-11-2017, 02:41 PM
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#25
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#1 Goaltender
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Fox then Dube next round
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07-11-2017, 02:47 PM
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#26
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Loves Teh Chat!
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"The impact that he has had as a freshman here has been unbelievable," Donato said Tuesday. "Offensively, he is so dynamic, and his hockey IQ and puck skills are really amongst the best that there is in college hockey. He makes big plays in big games and makes the players around him that much better. We actually tell the guys not to watch him because he plays with such feel that he makes it look easy out there. He's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
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I swear somebody said the same about Gaudreau... =D
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07-11-2017, 02:59 PM
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#27
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Went with Dube. I think Fox has higher upside but also a fairly big "miss" potential for me. Maybe it's a size thing. Dube seems like he has the stuff to be a regular NHLer, though not a star.
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Dube is one inch taller than Fox and outweighs him by a pound.
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07-11-2017, 03:01 PM
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#28
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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I went with Dube. I think he's a lock to be an NHL'er, and is probably pretty underrated. Fox is a pretty solid choice too.
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07-11-2017, 03:12 PM
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#29
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick M.
Dube is one inch taller than Fox and outweighs him by a pound.
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Dube is a forward. Fox is a defenseman. This makes a fairly significant difference insofar as their size is considered.
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07-11-2017, 03:58 PM
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#31
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Dube is a forward. Fox is a defenseman. This makes a fairly significant difference insofar as their size is considered.
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I won't argue that but Dube is also undersized. There are more small D-men these days as puck moving ability is more valued in the speed game.
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07-11-2017, 04:43 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Penticton, BC
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I feel like I'm going to be wasting my vote on Kulak for a few rounds here.
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07-11-2017, 04:48 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Iniggywetrust
I feel like I'm going to be wasting my vote on Kulak for a few rounds here.
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He's certainly capable enough to stick around, but hasn't shown anything yet to indicate why he would be anything more than a bottom pairing defenceman. In your rankings, how highly are you weighing the chance of a prospect making it, compared to the prospect's actual percieved ceiling?
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07-11-2017, 04:58 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Still voting Foo. I might be voting for a few more rounds. I really think he's going to be an NHLer, and very soon. The rest on this list...not so sure about.
I understand the Fox vote based on his stats, but I think he's a little overrated based on his quality of competition. Also, considering the combination of undersized and not great footspeed, I would need to see improvement in one or the other (preferably both) before I consider him a legitimate NHL prospect.
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07-11-2017, 05:07 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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The size thing doesn't bother me too much, fox is essentially the same size as Torey krug and his stat line would indicate he is capable (in the future) of similar play. Not saying that is what he will become but the projection sure is exciting at this early development stage
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07-11-2017, 05:24 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Fox, definitely.
Then Rittich, I think.
Flying under radar, given his AHL season.
He might start double digit games in the NHL this season. Or not... what do I know.
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07-11-2017, 05:42 PM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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My next choice or choices are going to be hard.
I like Foo, but want to see him with a higher level of competition than Development camp.
I thought Dube was the best forward in camp, and deserves consideration.
Rittich had a great season, but it's his only real high level season of work.
Mangiapane had a good first season, but still has size concerns.
Kulak is going to play by I wonder about his upside.
Poirier may be back but I wonder about lost development.
Klimchuk took a step forward but is it enough?
Shinkaruk took a step back but will he rebound?
Lots of options.
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07-11-2017, 06:20 PM
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#38
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
This is what his coach had to say about his overall play.
So not the strength of his game by any means but I think his defensive issues and skating issues have been overstated on Calgarypuck.
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Yup. Everything I've read on Calgarypuck contradictory to pro scouting reports and even what Foxs coach has said. It seems a few people who sat through development camp criticize his skating and defensive game is being taken as a legit report on the kid. But let's be honest a few days in the middle of summer that's not even real hockey games is a terrible reflection of a player's abilities.
Every year there's always a development camp bias.
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07-11-2017, 06:46 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Voted Kulak, I think the likelyhood of him hitting his ceiling is more realistic than Fox's since we have more time to see him develop to place him in the rankings.
If he can establish himself as a #6 this season it could make him a great asset down the road, even with another team.
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07-11-2017, 07:19 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
It was Rittich last round, and it's still Rittich.
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I'm curious about the lack of votes for Rittich both in this round and the previous, especially considering he had better numbers than Gillies.
Is it because he is over a year older than Gillies and some posters do not think he is a prospect with room to grow, or is it a lack of name recognition from only being in the organisation for a year?
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