[CP Story] What To Expect with Pick #16

[JohnnyTitan]

Two things this analysis made me realize:
1) Even the "Core" players are usually not contributing right away like our recent top-6 picks. We've been super-spoiled with Monahan, Tkachuk and even Bennett. The player the Flames pick at #16 will most likely not be contributing for a while. Even Tarasenko played two years post-draft before he played NHL. CP is not a patient bunch, so I'm already anticipating our #16 pick being dubbed a bust when he returns to Junior for his 19 year old season and then heads to the "A" for his 20 year old season! LOL

2) We don't really need to dwell or be upset with past management regarding our last picks in the 20s. Janko (#21 2012), Poirier (#22 2013) and Klimchuck (#28 2013) will probably end up slotting in right about what I'd expect the league average is for picks in the 20s. Hopefully a core piece, a support player and a bust but at least a support player, a tweener and a bust.

Bonus thing realized: I agree (and always agreed) that picks are far over-valued. The scenario that comes to mind, which will still pan-out over the next few years, was trading a 2nd round pick for Lazar. Some on these boards were PISSED that we'd trade something as valuable as #47th overall for a "Risk" on Lazar. I for one would MUCH rather have a 22-year-old who's already played 180 games in the NHL than the lottery ticket at #47. No waiting three or four years for development...and I'd guess less than a 10% chance that #47 pick ever plays even 100 NHL games.

Of course -> I don't want to trade all our picks and it sucks not having a 2nd or a 3rd rounder this year...but having Hamilton and Lazar will prove to be WAY better than #15 in 2015 and #47 in 2017. NHL roster players are valuable...especially when they're under 25 !

[1_Flames_Fan]

Take Makar from the Bandits

[troutman]

16th Overall NHL Draft Picks (Back to 1980)
http://www.mynhldraft.com/nhl-draft-...verall/160509/

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

Take Makar from the Bandits

If he is still available, most media feel he will be the highest selected player out of the AJHL, beating our former hero Joe Colborne. If he falls to 16, that would be a nice little pickup.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO

I hope the Flames pull a Pats/Seahawks and trade back a few times to get more kicks at the can.

For instance, the Seahawks this year came into the draft with #26 overall.
Traded #26 for #31 and a 3rd (95th) and 7th.
Then traded #31 for #34 and a 4th.

They turned #26 into:
a 2nd (#34), a 3rd (#95), a 4th (#111), and a 7th. This would be best case scenario for the Flames, IMO. Turn #16 into #30, a 2nd and a 3rd, or something like that.

Depends who is left at 16. Flames may have a guy in their top 10 fall to them at 16, stuff like that happens all the time. Flames will do their homework. They will create a list of guys they are zoned in on. I think a trade back makes sense in 2 scenarios. I'll paint a couple hypotheticals

1. They've got 5 guys they are targeting. None of them are available at 16. Then you deal down cause the value isn't there.
2. They've got 6 guys they are targeting that they view as fairly equal. 5 of them are still left at #16. This would allow them to deal down a few spots and still get a guy they like equally as much

Dealing down scenarios IMO have to revolve around your list of targeted players

[Hot_Flatus]

I'm really high on Kole Lind to be available when the Flames make their selection this year. Kid is a winger with some decent size. Can skate and finish. Leading the Rockets in scoring as a 18 year old doesn't hurt either.

You'd think the Flames will have had a good look at him with Dube being in the Rockets system as well.

[Five-hole]

Cherepanov - Bust. Harsh.

[Teroy]

There's always terrific players throughout the draft.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/t...r00005090.html