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View Poll Results: Best prospect from the following list?
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Andersson
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21.94% |
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Bruce
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0% |
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Carroll
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0% |
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Culkin
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0% |
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Dube
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0% |
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Falkovsky
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0% |
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Fox
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0 |
0% |
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Hamilton
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0 |
0% |
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Harrison
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0% |
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Hathaway
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1 |
0.28% |
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Hickey
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135 |
38.46% |
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Kanzig
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1 |
0.28% |
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Karnaukhov
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0% |
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Klimchuk
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0% |
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Kulak
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0% |
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Lindstrom
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0% |
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Mangiapane
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22 |
6.27% |
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Mattson
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0% |
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McDonald
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0% |
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Morrison
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0% |
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Ollas Mattsson
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0% |
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Parsons
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0% |
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Phillips
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0% |
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Poirier
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7 |
1.99% |
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Pollock
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0% |
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Pribyl
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2 |
0.57% |
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Rafikov
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0% |
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Rittich
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0 |
0% |
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Schneider
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0% |
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Shinkaruk
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102 |
29.06% |
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Smith
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0% |
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Tuolola
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2 |
0.57% |
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Wotherspoon
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2 |
0.57% |
07-12-2016, 08:56 AM
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#21
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First Line Centre
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Have to admit Andersson's conditioning dropped him below Hickey for me. Gigantic red flag in my opinion.
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07-12-2016, 09:03 AM
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#22
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burmis Tree
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Truth be told...I only vote in these to look back and see how great I am, or how far off base I am, at evaluating the Flame's prospects.
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07-12-2016, 09:05 AM
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#23
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Lifetime Suspension
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Andersson, like his upside much more. Hickey has an incredible shot but there is much to his offensive game besides that.
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07-12-2016, 09:10 AM
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#24
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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I query why everyone is for Andersson due to his offence, yet the defensiveness of Hickey is top notch. Both are useful in the NHL, so why the big love for strictly offensive defensemen when what Calgary needs is a good solid stay at home defender? Just looking for some explanation, that's all.
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07-12-2016, 09:11 AM
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#25
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaikorven
I query why everyone is for Andersson due to his offence, yet the defensiveness of Hickey is top notch. Both are useful in the NHL, so why the big love for strictly offensive defensemen when what Calgary needs is a good solid stay at home defender? Just looking for some explanation, that's all.
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Rasmus does both well. Isn't strictly offensive at all.
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07-12-2016, 09:11 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Do the posters all consider Hathaway graduated?
He only has 14 NHL games but sure looks he belongs and will likely have the most NHL games this season of all the players on this list.
His 19 goals in his rookie pro season was 2nd on the Flames AHL team.
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07-12-2016, 09:13 AM
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#27
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Rasmus does both well. Isn't strictly offensive at all.
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That's fair. I just feel that Hickey brings better defense overall. Just my opinion.
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07-12-2016, 09:15 AM
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#28
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Lifetime Suspension
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Shinkaruk as he is so close to becoming an NHL regular and sticking with the big club.
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07-12-2016, 09:19 AM
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#29
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Franchise Player
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Went with the D who's never out of position, plays smart physical hockey and looks a bit Doughtyish.
Hickey for me
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07-12-2016, 09:25 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
Do the posters all consider Hathaway graduated?
He only has 14 NHL games but sure looks he belongs and will likely have the most NHL games this season of all the players on this list.
His 19 goals in his rookie pro season was 2nd on the Flames AHL team.
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Hathaway might be more ready, but I think in the end his ceiling is being the next Lance Bouma. There are still plenty of prospects on this list who may have the ability to be more than that.
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07-12-2016, 09:32 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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The people running Swedish hockey have Ollas Mattsson ranked higher than both Kylington and Andersson.
With Gio Brodie and Hamilton signed for 6, 5 and 4 years it will be very hard for a another primary offense d-man to break into the Flames line-up....
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07-12-2016, 09:32 AM
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#32
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Paradise Island, Bahamas
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I think Hickey is 'can't miss top 4' while I think Andersson is "probably will be top 4" so I voted Hickey.
I'm not too worried about his offense. He won't get a lot this year either as he probably doesn't see much pp time with McAvoy and Fabbro on the team. But with Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, Andersson and Kylington I have few concerns about our immediate, short-term and mid-range offense from the back end.
I am wondering who will be our shutdown guys, especially mid-term. Hickey looks like he could excel in that role. Maybe Ollas Mattsson as well. I hope low expectations for Kanzig, Bruce and Falkovsky at the NHL level
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07-12-2016, 09:34 AM
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#33
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Hathaway might be more ready, but I think in the end his ceiling is being the next Lance Bouma. There are still plenty of prospects on this list who may have the ability to be more than that.
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Yeah, Hathaway is 25 in the fall. When/if he makes it it'll be as he peaks for 2-3 years. It's good to have those guys, keeps the bottom line cheap if you can cycle them out instead of trading for and overpaying a guy like Bollig.
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07-12-2016, 09:34 AM
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I believe in the Jays.
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Shinkaruk is a good (and at this time the best) bet to both...
A: Make the NHL (perhaps as soon as this season) and,
B: See the ice as something higher then a fringe 4th liner
... gotta be him.
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07-12-2016, 09:49 AM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Do the posters all consider Hathaway graduated?
He only has 14 NHL games but sure looks he belongs and will likely have the most NHL games this season of all the players on this list.
His 19 goals in his rookie pro season was 2nd on the Flames AHL team.
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I like Hathaway, but his upside is 4th line NHLer. I'm not going to vote for a highly probable 4th liner over a possible Top-6 forward or Top-4 defenseman.
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07-12-2016, 09:52 AM
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#36
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
I'm going Shinkaruk because he looks like he belongs a little in the NHL. He's got a nose for the net and does enough of the other things well to be useful instead of a liability.
This will be a big camp for him in the fall. He might stick full time if he does well.
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Hunter for 4th time for me; game-changing offensive ability/potential
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07-12-2016, 09:54 AM
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#37
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Poirier with my vote.
I think last year was an adjustment year in competing and learning to be an overall player. I hope the lesson was learned and this is the year he blossoms.
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07-12-2016, 09:55 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Hickey again. Best defense prospect with a pro game skill set. Really like Andersson as well, but his conditioning raises a red flag. Don't want to see another Ryan Howse situation develop, so this needs to be addressed. Makes him fall down the list.
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07-12-2016, 10:00 AM
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#39
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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I think Andersson's ceiling is higher. He surely knows that conditioning is his weak point, and yet he still showed up for a camp in less than great condition. This knocks him down a few rankings in my book. Will he commit to a pro lifestyle?
Hickey's skating, size and positioning make him more of a sure thing imo.
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07-12-2016, 10:02 AM
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#40
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardodw
The people running Swedish hockey have Ollas Mattsson ranked higher than both Kylington and Andersson.
With Gio Brodie and Hamilton signed for 6, 5 and 4 years it will be very hard for a another primary offense d-man to break into the Flames line-up....
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Doesn't take much of a hockey scout to see that the upside of Ollas Mattsson doesn't match either of Andersson or Kylington.
Could have more to do with the way he plays (need more physical players to compliment other finesse defensemen) or the politics of OM staying home while Andersson and Kylington have taken different routes (Kylington a young pro then AHL, Andersson OHL).
Or ... maybe it's the documented attitude of Kylington and conditioning of Andersson.
Hard to say.
But OM is a stay at home 5/7 projection blueliner
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