Lance Bouma: what sort of contract has he earned?

[Aarongavey]

I don't think people actually know what a bridge contract is. It is a contract that still allows a team to sign the player once the contract ends while the player is still a RFA. In order for Bouma to sign a bridge contract it would have to be a 1 year contract. A two year contract would not be a bridge contract. I would sign him for 10.4 over 4 years myself or else a 1 year contract for 2.1, but definitely not a 2 year deal, that would be the worst term possible.

[cam_wmh]

We get the next 2 years of RFA. I feel $2.25 million a piece for those is fair.

Following those 2 years, we're into his UFA years, and this may be his only decent contract, as he plays a very physically demanding game.

And, history has shown, some ridiculous UFA contracts have been thrown around, but he's still years from that option.

With that in mind, I'd pay $3.25 million for 2 of his UFA years.

$11.5 million over 4 years

[curves2000]

Its my understanding from someone within the organization that the team and him were less than $100 000 a year on coming to terms on a medium term deal.

From what he gathers it was an insignificant amount of money to the team and the negotiations dragged on a lot longer than they should have in order to establish precedent.

If this is true than you can bet that Mr. Bouma will be smiling now!

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

We get the next 2 years of RFA. I feel $2.25 million a piece for those is fair.

Following those 2 years, we're into his UFA years, and this may be his only decent contract, as he plays a very physically demanding game.

And, history has shown, some ridiculous UFA contracts have been thrown around, but he's still years from that option.

With that in mind, I'd pay $3.25 million for 2 of his UFA years.

$11.5 million over 4 years

I think you are on the high side of things here. I love Bouma and he deserves to get paid. I just don't want to be paying a guy 3 million bucks a season based off one year of offence. I would go shorter term, like 3 years. Less money too, as a UFA your numbers are correct but he is an rfa. You know that.

We have all seen what money can do to a player. I love Bouma, he is crazy doing what he does. My biggest fear is a long term contract with term makes him think he is a goal scorer now. If that happens, IF, Bouma will not be worthy of a roster spot.

Posters here have claimed him to be a top six forward! He is not, never will be and god help us if he ever thinks this. Moment he thinks he is a skilled player we are screwed. He will start playing soft.

Yet I think management will get the right contract done. I hope its a very good raise for him. 300 percent increase, earned it. Followed by "We love what you do, show us more, we got money we want to spend on you!".

[theoforever]

Wasn't there a memo by ownership, not to play hardball with the kids over small amounts?

[Fire]

Originally Posted by theoforever

Wasn't there a memo by ownership, not to play hardball with the kids over small amounts?

Not sure if serious.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by chubeyr1

I think you are on the high side of things here. I love Bouma and he deserves to get paid. I just don't want to be paying a guy 3 million bucks a season based off one year of offence. I would go shorter term, like 3 years. Less money too, as a UFA your numbers are correct but he is an rfa. You know that.

We have all seen what money can do to a player. I love Bouma, he is crazy doing what he does. My biggest fear is a long term contract with term makes him think he is a goal scorer now. If that happens, IF, Bouma will not be worthy of a roster spot.

Posters here have claimed him to be a top six forward! He is not, never will be and god help us if he ever thinks this. Moment he thinks he is a skilled player we are screwed. He will start playing soft.

Yet I think management will get the right contract done. I hope its a very good raise for him. 300 percent increase, earned it. Followed by "We love what you do, show us more, we got money we want to spend on you!".

Yep, valid points. I like the 3 year term idea, but I don't think that gets it done from Bouma's camp. If I'm Bouma, I want either 2, or 4 or more.

Couple examples, are two old Flames, in Brandon Prust & Eric Nystrom.

They each took contracts around the $2.5m avg. Bouma, has "better" years ahead of him, with a larger salary cap, allowing increased average contracts.

[dissentowner]

I would give him a 4 year 12M deal.

[foshizzle11]

I would give him 2 years at 2 mill and with good bonuses worked in so if he can repeat this season and better then he makes closer to 3 mill each year. If he can't keep this pace up, then you renegotiate a contract for what he is worth at that point. Ideal for the flames, not likely what Bouma would want.

[The Fonz]

Something along the lines of...

2.0M
2.35M
2.70M

[#-3]

IMO, 3y between $7.5M & $10.5M should be the negotiating range for both sides.


1) I'm gonna go with a statistical blip. Love the Player but I don't think he will be a 2 top forward 2-3 year down the road.

2) as a UFA I think he could get 4-5y $5-6M. But he is an RFA, and not they type of guy that gets offer sheeted, so he be working with the Flames or holding out for a trade.

3) Yes signing him long term is as high risk as they come. I just don't think give a 5+ year contract to a guy who just blew his career potential out of the water.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would sign him for 10.4 over 4 years myself or else a 1 year contract for 2.1, but definitely not a 2 year deal, that would be the worst term possible.

I agree, 4 years or 1 year. Anywhere from 2-2.5M would be my preference.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by #-3

2) as a UFA I think he could get 4-5y $5-6M.

Umm, a year?!

[Heavy Jack]

I think people need to start realising that 2.8 is probably even a bit less than what players like Bouma make/will be making. Look at how bent out of shape people got when Engelland signed for what he did but that is the market value for guys like him and Bouma will be no different. I think 4 years at 11.5-12 mill is the fair market value for Bouma considering how much he means to this team before you even look at his offensive stats. Teams win with guys like Bouma and I hope Calgary is willing to pay what his agent will be going for.

[foshizzle11]

Ya, no way as a UFA he gets 5 million??? Really?

I'd be happy with 2.5 for 3 years if it happened, but I still think my previous suggestion is a lot better for the Flames.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Again...in 2 years I'm pretty sure he becomes UFA.

Good point, didn't think of that.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by #-3

2) as a UFA I think he could get 4-5y $5-6M. But he is an RFA, and not they type of guy that gets offer sheeted, so he be working with the Flames or holding out for a trade..

You think he would get 5-6M a year as a UFA?
or are you saying 4-5Y @ 5-6M total?

[Monahan23]

3 years, 2.5 mil per

[Jason14h]

4 years 12.50

2.50, 3.0, 3.25, 3.75

[gonzo29]

2.5 x 3 or 4 years, can't really see it going any higher than that.

A 2 year "show me" deal would be perfect but there's no way the team will let him go UFA that soon.