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Old 01-16-2014, 10:41 AM   #21
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I agree with your post.

The issue I have is that this hoodie, was most likely puchased by an adult or at least consent to her wearing it was given by an adult. This does nothing help heal the issues with Native Communities, in fact I would suggest it only makes them worse. If the aim is truely to move towards reconcilliation and forgiveness this is not helpful.
I read through the article and don't think it said anywhere that this sweater was about reconcilliation and forgiveness. It says it was not designed to be offensive but it is definately designed to provoke discussion on treaty rights.
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How long can someone ride the coattails of their ancestors?
As long as there's systemic racism in Canadian society surrounding Aboriginal affairs.
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Old 01-16-2014, 11:03 AM   #24
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I read through the article and don't think it said anywhere that this sweater was about reconcilliation and forgiveness. It says it was not designed to be offensive but it is definately designed to provoke discussion on treaty rights.

I think that unless the mindset shifts from still laying blame to focusing on fixing the wrongs/issues then the issues/wrongs will always remain. It would be nice for the younger generation to focus on change rather than blame.

Yes, I realize this is easy for me to type as a white canadian.
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I raise you the indians outside that Walmart with the white people (aliens) walking around inside that Walmart. I welcome the folks outside as I try to escape the asylum folk inside.
That Walmart is just a disaster, basically.

My wife and I don't go there after dark.
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That Walmart is just a disaster, basically.

My wife and I don't go there after dark.
Welcome to Canada, where the scariest thing is Walmart after 9 PM.
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I think if we dismissed the problems of black people in the US in the same way we dismiss the problems of natives in Canada, we'd be looked upon as incredibly racist and insensitive.

Basically replace natives with any other ethnic groups and people would be uncomfortable with how they're treated. Not sure why it's generally accepted (at least on a much broader level than other groups). I'm guilty of it too.
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I think if we dismissed the problems of black people in the US in the same way we dismiss the problems of natives in Canada, we'd be looked upon as incredibly racist and insensitive.

Basically replace natives with any other ethnic groups and people would be uncomfortable with how they're treated. Not sure why it's generally accepted (at least on a much broader level than other groups). I'm guilty of it too.
I would argue that its not as much that we dismiss the problems of natives, the sheer amount of money being spent on that kind of argues the opposite.

At this point what's being ignored is the sheer native on native issues where they're being screwed over by their own leadership, and that's becoming a bigger problem.

The solution is to modernize the governments expectations and roles here, but nobody wants to do it because there's not enough agreement to make that change.
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I think if we dismissed the problems of black people in the US in the same way we dismiss the problems of natives in Canada, we'd be looked upon as incredibly racist and insensitive.

Basically replace natives with any other ethnic groups and people would be uncomfortable with how they're treated. Not sure why it's generally accepted (at least on a much broader level than other groups). I'm guilty of it too.
I think a huge part of it is money. It doesn't cost anything to give african americans the right to vote or go to school, but with the native population we are dealing with land claims, mineral rights, etc. There's always a huge cost involved.
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I think this kind of expression is a good one. There are legitamate land claims made under treaties 6,7,8 that have not been fufilled. Canada swindled natives our of their land and now we don't even want to give them what little we promised.

And given by the typical reaction here more education is needed on what Canada actually agreed to in exchange for the land.
They got pretty screwed.

You almost think things would have been better with a full on conquering than this ..... "Hey... we're about to crush you, but you can go hang out over here and leave us alone and we'll put the last part on hold"
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I would argue that its not as much that we dismiss the problems of natives, the sheer amount of money being spent on that kind of argues the opposite.

At this point what's being ignored is the sheer native on native issues where they're being screwed over by their own leadership, and that's becoming a bigger problem.

The solution is to modernize the governments expectations and roles here, but nobody wants to do it because there's not enough agreement to make that change.
I think on a lower level we are pretty racist towards Natives.

I remember feeling really weird being out at a pub, sitting next to a hammered Native guy. Because I was the hammered white guy sitting next to him. And it was ok for me. But my brain jumped to wondering if this guy had a problem with booze and if it was ok for him to be out getting hammered. Totally not cool, but it happened.

If I go walk down Stephen Ave in my working on the car sweatpants and a hoodie, People think, wow, that guy has bad fashion sense.

A native guy who lives in Mount Royal comes down and does the same thing, everyone assumes he's homeless.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:31 PM   #35
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Hilarious shirt when you think about it. Especially the feather exclamation mark at the end.
What an odd choice of font.
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Why do they have so much stuff on their counter? Do they not use the cupboards?
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Why do they have so much stuff on their counter? Do they not use the cupboards?
looks like it could be pickles and a jar of pink stuff
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