What would you give up for Seguin?

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Glencross + Gaudreau + 2014 3rd round pick would be about as high as I'd be willing to go.

Really? That would get the phone hung up on you so fast.

I think Seguin has always been a little overrated but he deserves a package much greater than that.

I think Gaudreau, Brodie, and a conditional first depending if the pick is top 5 or not would do. If not, the Bruins get the pick. If it is a top 5 then the first rolls over to the next season.

He's the first line center we've wanted for more than a decade and he's only worth a good prospect, Glencross, and a 3rd rounder? Why would they possibly want that package other than Gaudreau?

[Dienasty]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

You're equating Cammalleri + 2nd to Baertschi's value?

Eating half his salary, which ownership has shown little interest in doing, plus a 4th round pick.

[SofaProfessor]

I wouldn't want to go beyond current roster players for this guy. Cammy + ? + a pick, perhaps. No way would I want to see Baertschi or any of our other top prospects moving for Seguin.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I don't think it'll take as much to get Seguin as many on CP think it will. I'd say the 2014 1st rounder + Gaudreau with minor tweaks could likely get it done.

Is that all? One of our best prospects and a pick that could potentially be 1st overall?

[nik-]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Really? That would get the phone hung up on you so fast.

I think Seguin has always been a little overrated but he deserves a package much greater than that.

I think Gaudreau, Brodie, and a conditional first depending if the pick is top 5 or not would do. If not, the Bruins get the pick. If it is a top 5 then the first rolls over to the next season.

He's the first line center we've wanted for more than a decade and he's only worth a good prospect, Glencross, and a 3rd rounder? Why would they possibly want that package other than Gaudreau?

The question isn't "what is Seguin's value" it's "what would you give up"

We likely can't afford to pay his value and not mess up an infant rebuild, so this is all moot anyway.

[danny darko]

As much as I would love to see Seguin on our team, I just don't think I'm ready to part ways with some of our up and coming talent. I for one am really excited to see how this group of Sven, Gaudreau, etc. comes together over the next few years. However I also understand you have to give to get. I just don't see Gaudreau involved in a deal unless he calls Feaster and says he hates Calgary and has no desire to play here or something.

[Hockeyguy15]

It's funny how trading away first rounders got us to this point, and now people are willing to give away next years first rounder.

Fool me once....

If you trade for him giving up a first rounder is not an option anymore.

[devo22]

stay away from Seguin, draft Reinhart/Nylander/Ekblad next year and possibly McDavid the year after.

[rubecube]

Don't we allegedly have two potential #1 centres in the system in Monahan and Jankowski? This team needs to address it's blueline.

[Phaneufenstein]

I'd like to have Seguin, but he would cost us too much.

We shouldn't be giving up assets at the moment.
There will be opportunities to draft players like him in the next couple of years.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Is that all? One of our best prospects and a pick that could potentially be 1st overall?

Compared to what some are suggesting on here. Yeah, I think "that's all".

Believe me, I want to keep Gaudreau and our top 10 pick for next season. As awesome as it'd be to have Seguin as a Flame, I just don't know if it's worth it.

[Dagger]

I agree with the sentiment that moving next year's first is generally speaking a bad idea BUT for a player like Seguin you do it. Seguin has FRANCHISE player potential, he would automatically become the best forward on our team from day one, he is a centre(although he has been playing as a winger for the B's), he's been to 2 Cup finals at only 21, he has a cup, AND would allow Monahan to ease in to our lineup more gracefully than he would be now as an 18-20 year old that's supposed to be the best centre wee've had/going to get since Nieuwendyk. And if we were to draft top 3 next year, we'd be lucky to get a player that is the prospect Seguin was coming out, and has shown to be in his tenure in the NHL.

If you can get Seguin you absolutely do it.

[Vinny01]

From what I heard on the Dreger interview that i posted in the trade speculation thread the Flames were the team that backed out of the deal at the draft. The rumor there was 6th pick + Johnny which is likely fair value but I am glad they kept the pick as I am very big on Monahan.

Having said that if Seguin is on the block I really hope the Flames are still kicking tires. The "rumor" posted by an annonymous blogger on hockeybuzz (who says he doesn't post rumors unless the source is decent) was Johnny + Backlund + 2nd for Seguin with other pieces (primarily salary coming back to the Flames being added). Personally I would do Jonhhny + Backlund + Glencross for Seguin + Peverley which frees up an easy $4M for the Bruins assuming Backlund signs for $2.5M (could sign for less even).

To me the only true untouchables are Monahan, 2014 1st and Sven (unless the deal is 1 for 1 which it wouldn't be). I also think Boston will not trade Seguin after calling him out in public. I think they shopped him, and when they couldn't find a deal that worked they publically blasted him in hopes it acts as a wakeup call. However we hear about Boston being in on Lecavilier, and now Briere and Alfie. Theyt do not have the cap space to sign one of those guys and give Rask the $7M per deal that is being rumored. If the B's trade one of Seguin, Lucic, Marchand it will likely be Seguin and they will want that team to take Peverley and/or Kelly back as well while sending a top end prospect and some cheap players that can contribute today.

Personally I am all for trading for a 21 year old first line C and using Gaudreau as the centrepiece.

[Roof-Daddy]

I like Seguin, and would love to have him....but is he really a "first line C"?

He's played mostly RW in his three nhl seasons, which is ok too because we're thin on RW as well.

Wouldn't call him a 1st line C though.

[GoFlamesGo1989]

Seguin has publicly said he doesn't like playing the wing and is a Center. That's why Boston has come out and said quit whining.

[Enoch Root]

Would love to add Seguin if the price was right.

But we are in a rebuild and you build through the draft. There is a pretty good chance that our 1st round pick next year will be as good or better than Seguin.

I would be willing to build around Gaudreau because you have to give them talent back. But no 1sts and no Baertschi.

Also, no Glencross.

Backlund makes sense as Seguin would play C here.

I would do Gaudreau + Backlund + a 2nd, just like the rumour. But that's about it.

But keep in mind, adding Seguin probably means we're back in the 9-11 range next year, so it probably means we don't get a Reinhart/Ekblad kind of pick next year. Bad idea for the rebuild, IMO.

Patience and drafting.

[Clever_Iggy]

For me, the following should be off the table for Seguin: Sven, Brodie, Monahan, 2014 1st, 2015 1st. Otherwise, I could accept any reasonable combination of vets, prospects, picks.

While Gaudreau is a nice story, he's an easy addition in exchange for someone like Seguin.

[dammage79]

Seguin, like Lindholm would have done, fills two needs at the same time. 1. Top six center on a team weak in centers (even though we do have Janko, Knight, Backlund, Reinhart, Monahan in the works). 2. Top six RW depending on how the coach deploys his troops. I love Gaudreau to death because of what he is and his skill set but he will be a part in any deal for a 21 year old top tier forward.

The rumored deal the guy posted on Hockey buzz is right down the alley interms of acquisition cost if it was for Seguin alone. What I do think is happening is tweaking around the deal in terms of Boston getting a winger or two in return as well potentialy adding a D-man going to Calgary.

A deal like this essentially puts Calgary out of the Free agent market on almost all fronts. So it would not surprise me if this rumor is ongoing for a while.

Boston will be announcing deals for Rask and Bergeron any hour now so you know they will be looking to deal.

I cannot see many complaints if this deal happened. Yes it is a rebuild and they still can draft and be patient. But the goal of the whole thing is to get back into contention as fast as possible.

[blankall]

Moving next year's 1st or Sven, is a lateral move, we shouldn't make. Both of those assets have the potential to become franchise players. Our 1st has a good chance of being top 3.

We should only be making moves that clearly upgrade the team. Basically, I'd move any combination of assets that does not include a 1st or Baertschi. I'd also be hesistant to move Monahan, but would do it depending on what else is in the package.

[Jacks]

Seguin has also said that he has had trouble adapting to playing the wing which conceivably could be affecting his production. Playing in his natural position and getting first line minutes would allow him to reach his potential.

Normally I would agree with not trading draft picks but Seguin is probably better than anyone we would be drafting next year. Also, with him in the lineup and some other tweaks I don't see us finishing with a top 5 pick. He is exactly the kind of player we should be trying to aquire.