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Old 04-02-2013, 06:24 PM   #21
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Maybe it's us buying a draft pick this time.
If the Flames were in the mood to eat salary, they should have done it on the Bouwmeester trade to land a much better prospect and/or expand the market of suitors.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:30 PM   #22
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If the Flames were in the mood to eat salary, they should have done it on the Bouwmeester trade to land a much better prospect and/or expand the market of suitors.
Like I said above the salary has been mostly paid and the Leafs have no need of contract of cap space. If Komisarek is a healthy scratch then we can talk about Calgary selling cap space.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:32 PM   #23
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Like I said above the salary has been mostly paid and the Leafs have no need of contract of cap space. If Komisarek is a healthy scratch then we can talk about Calgary selling cap space.

Is it maybe something that the Leafs need the contract room? I dont know where they sit on NHL contracts, but if they have a multi-player deal set up, they may need to dump a contract to accomodate.
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #24
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These are the types of situations the Flames need to take advantage of.

Feaster knows other teams are strapped for cap space, so make teams pay for relief.
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Well the Flames do have two centers so I see no need for him. Of course the season is lost, but guys like Tim Connolly who have a lot to prove are what will be around the next couple of years. My guess is if he were brought in, they'd re-up him for like a million a year for two years.
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Actually it appears the Leafs are at the 50 contract limit...so maybe something like just making room for an addition.
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Actually it appears the Leafs are at the 50 contract limit...so maybe something like just making room for an addition.
Important point but if he was being moved just to make room, what does anyone care if he gets injured (which is why he was kept out of the lineup apparently but it could just be that they are close to trading him)? My guess is someone wants to get him in their lineup. Could be Calgary but the Kiprusoff thing is not the only thing Nonis is working on.
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If Feaster trades for a UFA center like Connolly I hope gets fired before he leaves the office tonight.
However, if he trades for Connolly so that Toronto throws their 1st in as well, rather than just a 2nd or 3rd, then I'd be very happy.
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Actually it appears the Leafs are at the 50 contract limit...so maybe something like just making room for an addition.
I don't think they are. They are at 51 contracts. But Reilly, Biggs, Percy, and Broll don't count as they are protected with the CHL slide rule bringing that number down to 47.
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These are the types of situations the Flames need to take advantage of.

Feaster knows other teams are strapped for cap space, so make teams pay for relief.
They aren't though. Toronto could grab Cammalleri, Kiprsuoff, Giordano and Tanguay and still have room to make several more trades this year with regard to cap space, reserve list is a different story.

If Connolly is traded, I could see the Flames being the target. The Flames will need warm bodies. Connolly has an expensive contract, but the actual salary he's owed is close to only 500k. Assuming the Flames do make more moves and need someone playing in their top 9, even a league minimum player is going to grab around 100k for the rest of the season, so might be worth it to grab Connolly and give him a "tryout" of sorts.

If he plays alright, it would make sense to re-sign him this offseason at a reduced contract for both sides. Odds are if Connolly is trying to get his career back on track there's not going to be a team in the league that could offer him the chance at the minutes the Flames could. And the Flames need NHL players still, a cheap UFA like Connolly who could bounce back could be worth something at the deadline.
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If the Flames were in the mood to eat salary, they should have done it on the Bouwmeester trade to land a much better prospect and/or expand the market of suitors.
Not that I disagree, but if Kolzig's deal is a benchmark, the Leafs ate 500k of salary or so in that deal and got a 4th round pick back. Eating 500k of salary for Bouwmeester (100k this year, 400k next year for simplicity) I doubt changes his cap hit enough to draw much added interest.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:04 PM   #31
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I don't think they are. They are at 51 contracts. But Reilly, Biggs, Percy, and Broll don't count as they are protected with the CHL slide rule bringing that number down to 47.
By my count they are at 54 contracts according to CapGeek. After subtracting the 4 slide rules they are at the limit of 50 after signing MacIntyre. A contract definitely needs to be moved out in any trade. Connelly makes the most sense as there is clearly no future for him with the Maple Leafs.

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By my count they are at 54 contracts according to CapGeek. After subtracting the 4 slide rules they are at the limit of 50 after signing MacIntyre. A contract definitely needs to be moved out in any trade. Connelly makes the most sense as there is clearly no future for him with the Maple Leafs.

http://www.capgeek.com/mapleleafs/
http://capgeek.com/mapleleafs/reserve-list/
Reserve list has them at 51 with 4 SR's, not sure which one of them count.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #33
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By my count they are at 54 contracts according to CapGeek. After subtracting the 4 slide rules they are at the limit of 50 after signing MacIntyre. A contract definitely needs to be moved out in any trade. Connelly makes the most sense as there is clearly no future for him with the Maple Leafs.

http://www.capgeek.com/mapleleafs/
A bunch of those contracts don't start until next season. So your count is off.

Try this: http://www.capgeek.com/mapleleafs/reserve-list/
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #34
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Reserve list has them at 51 with 4 SR's, not sure which one of them count.
The other one shows all contracts. Including ones that don't start until next season. And thus don't count this season. They are at 47 contracts (51 minus the 4SR)
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My bad. Saw the three that don't start until next year. Thanks.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:27 PM   #36
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However, if he trades for Connolly so that Toronto throws their 1st in as well, rather than just a 2nd or 3rd, then I'd be very happy.
Fair enough..........I'd agree with that. Just hope it's not for a guy that they want to take a chance with next year. I'd rather wait until the summer and see what other opportunities there are.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:35 PM   #37
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yeah in this scenario he has negative value...Flames could actually do well with those types of trades. We will take your terrible contract, and a pick
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:45 PM   #38
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Everyone is available. Don't make an offer unless a 1st is involved - as simple as that!
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:49 PM   #39
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Getting komisarik and Connellys contracts off the books would help TOR beef up a little more tomorrow too. Throw in that first and the flames will eat those contracts and give you Kipper. Sounds good to me.
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This guy will go for a 7th rd pick
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