Warrent for arrest - Going to Mexico

[Cheerio]

I take it "Buddy" isn't the sharpest tool in the shed?

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

My first thought is that he (and you) should not be seeking legal advice on a hockey forum (or any forum for that matter), and certainly not relying on that advice, possibly to his detriment.

My second is that if he actually has a warrant out for his arrest (and I don't know enough about the charges to assess whether this is true) then he may well face difficulty either a) entering the U.S. or b) coming back into Canada.

Thirdly, a warrant is generally issued when a person facing criminal charges fails to appear in court on a date when they were supposed to. This could well happen with the C-train ticket (though again--not a lawyer, and this isn't legal advice).

On balance, whether he pays the tickets or not is up to him. But a trip to Mexico seems like a very foolish risk to take. My actual advice to him (recognizing that I'll be called a "butt-hurt" poster) is to seek actual legal advice. If his income is below a certain level, he may be eligible for Student Legal Assistance at the U of C; the fee there is only 30$, and they may well be able to get these issues settled for him so that he can once again travel to other countries without fear of arrest.

Unless his actual plan was to flee to Mexico. In which case, have at it.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by thesmugger

Just trying to pad your post count? Pretty useless post you made there pal

Nope... he is pretty much right.

[Reggie Dunlop]

As a responsible citizen, I strongly urge you to turn your buddy in to the proper authorities.

[Jimmy Stang]

Not sure why the backlash against the people who just suggested paying the fines. That is the easiest way to ensure that he won't have trouble getting back into the country. If he wants to join you in Mexico, I don't see what's wrong with suggesting that he gets his house in order first.

In my travels, Canadian customs agents give you a grilling on par with few other countries. If he does in fact have a warrant, I'd be surprised if he slips through unnoticed. Personally, I wouldn't want that hanging over my head as the finale to my vacation.

[dustyanddaflames]

Originally Posted by thesmugger

Not really sure. He has no car anymore so he's not really worried about getting pulled over by the cops.. Just trying to pad your post count? Pretty useless post you made there pal

Interesting thought.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by dustyanddaflames

Interesting thought.

Agreed.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

As a responsible citizen, I strongly urge you to turn your buddy in to the proper authorities.

I would do it at the Calgary airport, after the trip has been paid.

[thesmugger]

Originally Posted by evman150

Your "buddy"?

Sure...

Pay the tickets man. Not difficult.

I've already paid $1500 for my trip. I've got nothing to hide from people on the internet. I've already made a thread about my DUI on this forum and got lots of good advice/answers, I'm not nervous about what anyone thinks of me. If it was my issue, I'd say so..

I'm just looking for some answers for a friend.

[AC]

I don't have anything to say on the matter, but I'll be damned if the term "butt-hurt" doesn't make me giggle.

[Kybosh]

I strongly recommend not going to Mexico until his affairs are settled here. I had a friend (who had a similar situation) be detained at the Coutts border crossing and banned from entering the USA for 5 years.

[stuck_in_chuk]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

In my travels, Canadian customs agents give you a grilling on par with few other countries. If he does in fact have a warrant, I'd be surprised if he slips through unnoticed. Personally, I wouldn't want that hanging over my head as the finale to my vacation.

I'm guessing that Cuba is one of those select few countries. At least from my very recent experiences, it is...

[McG]

is there some way to find out if a warrant has actually been issued? I don't know...just asking.

i would think over time, the cost of resolution gets higher. maybe your friend could pay off the ones that are "warrantable" or have a warrant, and deal with the other ones later?

[FanIn80]

What does "butt-hurt" actually mean within the context of this thread?

Is the OP suggesting that those who point out the idiocy of travelling to Mexico instead of paying off some parking tickets are currently suffering from anal discomfort? Why is that, I wonder? Does common sense equate to homosexuality? Are all logical thought processes now considered gay, or just the ones that pertain to travelling to Mexico?

This could seriously cause a shift in everything we've ever learned about sexuality, so I think some clarity is in order.

Edit: Or, I suppose he could just be suggesting that intelligence causes hemorrhoids...

[hockeycop]

There will be warrants issued for the transit warrant. They will be Form 21 warrants (commonly referred to as pay-or-stay) which means he can pay his fines to get released, or be put in front of a JP.

Traffic tickets do not go to warrant in Alberta. He will just be unable to access services (registration, licences, ID cards, etc).

Canada does not share information with Mexican authorities, but we do share with the US. If you have a connecting flight through the US, pay before you travel or he will be denied entry to the US (carry proof). If it is a direct flight, go ahead and enjoy your vacation, but you're going to have to take care of the ticket when you land (he will be arrested at Customs by the CBSA). If he can pay, the City Police will attend and he can pay them. If he can't pay, he goes to big boy jail for a while.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

In my travels, Canadian customs agents give you a grilling on par with few other countries. If he does in fact have a warrant, I'd be surprised if he slips through unnoticed. Personally, I wouldn't want that hanging over my head as the finale to my vacation.

I think it also really depends on the airport. I've never had any problems coming back to Calgary or Vancouver, but in my experience Pearson customs are really tough, and I've heard the same from others.

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by hockeycop

There will be warrants issued for the transit warrant. They will be Form 7 warrants (commonly referred to as pay-or-stay) which means he can pay his fines to get released, or be put in front of a JP.

Aren't pay or stays Form 21 warrants?

[CaptainCrunch]

I think if there is an actual court date indicated on the traffic ticket and he didn't show up for the date, there's a good possibility of a bench warrant being issued. This generally means that your name is in a computer and if a cop comes across you they can detain you.

I would not try to cross the border if you have tickets outstanding, that would be taking a really big chance of making a relatively minor thing into a really bad thing.

Just pay the ticket.

[hockeycop]

Originally Posted by jar_e

Aren't pay or stays Form 21 warrants?

Hahaha. Yup!

Sorry, I was side tracked with some Mental Health Act stuff!

Originally Posted by hockeycop

Traffic warrants do not go to warrant in Alberta. He will just be unable to access services (registration, licences, ID cards, etc).

Except hit and run, no insurance and a few others. Or if the cop decided to give you a "pink" ticket because he felt, in the interest of the public, you needed to see a Justice of the Peace.

Also, Form 21 warrants simply mean you have been found guilty and simply haven't paid your fine (in a nutshell anyway). Again, this only goes for offences like no insurance, hit and run (and a few other traffic offences that I don't recall atm) and all bylaw tickets.