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Old 07-04-2025, 11:36 AM   #3961
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Seattle now has
Beniers
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O’Brien
Wright

Down the middle. Someone’s getting moved soon enough
Or they shift some to the wing. Wright looked like he might be on his way out but he had a solid year last year.

They have picked 4 C with their top 10 picks though and not a bad thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if they wished they had Parekh or Dickinson over Catton right now
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Old 07-04-2025, 11:39 AM   #3962
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Down the middle. Someone’s getting moved soon enough
Catton and O’Brien are nowhere near NHL ready, so they're fine
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Old 07-04-2025, 11:54 AM   #3963
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Down the middle. Someone’s getting moved soon enough
Catton may not be a centre at the NHL level.
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Catton may not be a centre at the NHL level.
Why? Because he is not 6'4?
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Old 07-04-2025, 12:05 PM   #3968
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Why? Because he is not 6'4?
That would be one reason yes.

There could be others. And it could be situation where he's in a centre role some of the time, but not full time.

Having too many centres is never a bad thing, because its easier for a centre to play wing than a wing to play centre.

I could see them wanting to run Beniers/Wright primarily up the middle, with Catton on one of their wings.
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Weegar isn't worth as much as some posters think, I think you would be very disappointed in what he would return! Certainly not as a centrepiece for a #1 C, Jansen Harkins is probably what you could get for Weeger from the Ducks. As for the two players you mentioned there is zero chance they are traded, zero! The Flames don't have the assets anyhow, there is no good trade chips on this team and very little in the pipeline! The Stars wouldn't trade Johnston even if we offered Parekh, Coronato, Wolf, 10 1st round picks, KFC's recipe for their fried chicken batter, and the secret to how they get the Caramilk in the Caramilk bar. Let's face it, the Flames will always be in the mushy middle and are going about things all wrong!

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Having too many centres is never a bad thing, because its easier for a centre to play wing than a wing to play centre.
You would think so until you run into a situation like Sam Bennett. Although in that case, I think it was more that he had no interest in it.
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Old 07-04-2025, 01:18 PM   #3971
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You would think so until you run into a situation like Sam Bennett. Although in that case, I think it was more that he had no interest in it.
When it comes to Bennett...I do wonder if sometimes it's less about wing/center and more just about embracing the player.

Kadri in Toronto and Bennett in Calgary are similar to me.

The things that management and media sometimes overfocused on with the player...bad penalties, over exuberance, over carrying the puck, etc.

Became things that the Avalanche and Panthers embraced about the players.

The Avs didn't have an issue with Kadri bringing more of an edge, crossing the line at times, being a bit of a puck hog and dominating the puck on the second line. They embraced him doing it.

Same thing with Bennett in Florida - they embraced his tenacity, allowed him to handle the puck more, encouraged him to try to make more zone entries with possession through the middle of the ice, and tried to embrace his blend of skill and grit, as opposed to trying to make him more of a pure grinder.

Sometimes you just have to embrace what the player is instead of trying to morph him into something else.
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No life is busy at the moment…

Also lots of bullshiet is floating in the tank out there. I don’t think the offer from LA was “Massive”, I think it was a GM who had a load of assets/cap and tried to give quantities over quality from a flames perspective.

Was there a rumoured top prospect involved yes. Was it a goalie, yes. Do we have a need for a goalie long term. I sure don’t believe so. I’m not discrediting that it wasn’t a good offer but I don’t think it was a need to pull the trigger for the flames. We all know the holes in the roster…future LHD, C preferably those of the RHS.

Also there is nothing to Rasmus not being interested in signing in LA. He just wasn’t willing to put pen to paper if approached which hasn’t happened with LA or Any team. IF Rasmus is moved. I expect this to drag out for a couple more weeks…things are in a cool off period between Ras and Flames.One source says the door is still open to an extension but it will be on flames terms.
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Carter George? Good prospect, but yeah, not what we need right now.

EDIT: or Slukynsky.
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Carter George? Good prospect, but yeah, not what we need right now.

EDIT: or Slukynsky.
I’ve heard it was a pick ‘em but I have more faith in Hampton then Carter.
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Carter George? Good prospect, but yeah, not what we need right now.
Yeah. And goalie prospects are so difficult to project - even elite ones. Would prefer Greentree as the prospect. Not a center but a good prospect and one that fits the needs of the team.
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When it comes to Bennett...I do wonder if sometimes it's less about wing/center and more just about embracing the player.

Kadri in Toronto and Bennett in Calgary are similar to me.

The things that management and media sometimes overfocused on with the player...bad penalties, over exuberance, over carrying the puck, etc.

Became things that the Avalanche and Panthers embraced about the players.

The Avs didn't have an issue with Kadri bringing more of an edge, crossing the line at times, being a bit of a puck hog and dominating the puck on the second line. They embraced him doing it.

Same thing with Bennett in Florida - they embraced his tenacity, allowed him to handle the puck more, encouraged him to try to make more zone entries with possession through the middle of the ice, and tried to embrace his blend of skill and grit, as opposed to trying to make him more of a pure grinder.

Sometimes you just have to embrace what the player is instead of trying to morph him into something else.
I don’t recall Bennett being a puck hog like Kadri.

But carrying the puck and entering the zone with swagger is what you want from your centers. That is why Zary and Frost are important.
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Zegras and Gibson trades had been percolating for what felt like forever but with Q in as coach I can’t see the Ducks gutting their roster more than they have.
Straight from the GM. They moved Zegras because they have no room for him down the middle or on the wing.

McTavish isn’t getting traded.
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No life is busy at the moment…

Also lots of bullshiet is floating in the tank out there. I don’t think the offer from LA was “Massive”, I think it was a GM who had a load of assets/cap and tried to give quantities over quality from a flames perspective.

Was there a rumoured top prospect involved yes. Was it a goalie, yes. Do we have a need for a goalie long term. I sure don’t believe so. I’m not discrediting that it wasn’t a good offer but I don’t think it was a need to pull the trigger for the flames. We all know the holes in the roster…future LHD, C preferably those of the RHS.

Also there is nothing to Rasmus not being interested in signing in LA. He just wasn’t willing to put pen to paper if approached which hasn’t happened with LA or Any team. IF Rasmus is moved. I expect this to drag out for a couple more weeks…things are in a cool off period between Ras and Flames.One source says the door is still open to an extension but it will be on flames terms.
Do you in your personal opinion (not in an opinion representative of what the Flames believe or think)- do you personally believe Ras overplayed his hand here by chance?
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No life is busy at the moment…

Also lots of bullshiet is floating in the tank out there. I don’t think the offer from LA was “Massive”, I think it was a GM who had a load of assets/cap and tried to give quantities over quality from a flames perspective.

Was there a rumoured top prospect involved yes. Was it a goalie, yes. Do we have a need for a goalie long term. I sure don’t believe so. I’m not discrediting that it wasn’t a good offer but I don’t think it was a need to pull the trigger for the flames. We all know the holes in the roster…future LHD, C preferably those of the RHS.

Also there is nothing to Rasmus not being interested in signing in LA. He just wasn’t willing to put pen to paper if approached which hasn’t happened with LA or Any team. IF Rasmus is moved. I expect this to drag out for a couple more weeks…things are in a cool off period between Ras and Flames.One source says the door is still open to an extension but it will be on flames terms.
Conny taking holidays then? Wish there was a roster freeze over part of the summer so us nerds could find something else to do instead of checking in with our insiders on a daily basis seeking tidbits of info.
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It sounds like Conroy is working on moving Andersson, but he probably really is serious about starting the season with him if the Flames' ask isn't met. Looking at the top available UFAs, there aren't going to be a lot of high end guys available at the trade deadline, as most UFA D are on teams that will be in the playoff picture.

There should likely be a decent market for Rasmus as a deadline rental, so Conroy can afford to be patient if he doesn't get a strong offer.

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