2010 NFL Regular Season Thread

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

John Fox is on the short list for Broncos' coach.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6001934

Noooooo!!!!!! Dennison is definitely my pick from the names the Broncos have mentioned. If they're getting the band back together he's got to be the guy.

[OILFAN #81]

Bad news for Raider fans. Pro Bowl CB Asomugha is now a free agent after a clause in his contract was not met.

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=348726

[rubecube]

The Eagles would be ######ed not to sign him. He'd instantly turn our secondary problems around.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Bad news for Raider fans. Pro Bowl CB Asomugha is now a free agent after a clause in his contract was not met.

http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/story/?id=348726

It sucks but not the end of the world. He was getting paid massive amounts of money, isn't a ball hawking DB, and never plays 16 games. It hurts but the Raiders would be better off spreading that money around in the safety and OL positions. Besides no team is going to offer him what the Raiders were paying him so chances are the Raiders will still offer him more money than any other team for his services.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It sucks but not the end of the world. He was getting paid massive amounts of money, isn't a ball hawking DB, and never plays 16 games. It hurts but the Raiders would be better off spreading that money around in the safety and OL positions. Besides no team is going to offer him what the Raiders were paying him so chances are the Raiders will still offer him more money than any other team for his services.

Really? That's one of your reasons? He isn't a ball hawking DB because no one throws at him. Hard to get interceptions when you don't see a pass. Jets will offer him same deal as Revis.

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It sucks but not the end of the world. He was getting paid massive amounts of money, isn't a ball hawking DB, and never plays 16 games. It hurts but the Raiders would be better off spreading that money around in the safety and OL positions. Besides no team is going to offer him what the Raiders were paying him so chances are the Raiders will still offer him more money than any other team for his services.

Originally Posted by Sowa

Really? That's one of your reasons? He isn't a ball hawking DB because no one throws at him. Hard to get interceptions when you don't see a pass. Jets will offer him same deal as Revis.

The not playing 16 games thing doesn't make sense either. He has missed 6 total games in 8 NFL seasons.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sowa

Really? That's one of your reasons? He isn't a ball hawking DB because no one throws at him. Hard to get interceptions when you don't see a pass. Jets will offer him same deal as Revis.

Well lack of interceptions was one of the reasons his contract was voided so obviously weight is put into that isn't it? He's one of the best corners in the league but he does get beat when thrown to at times. There's no guarantee he would be dominant playing in a heavy zone scheme. He's really suited for the Raider's man to man scheme and no team plays as much man coverage as the Raiders.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

The not playing 16 games thing doesn't make sense either. He has missed 6 total games in 8 NFL seasons.

It's the last few seasons where he started getting the big money that he's missed games. Also that missing games is misleading as there have been lots of games he's started and not finished. Trust me I know these things.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OILFAN81

The not playing 16 games thing doesn't make sense either. He has missed 6 total games in 8 NFL seasons.

Allow me to direct you here:

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

I read the first few pages of this thread, and nearly everything posted by Erick Estrada has turned out to be dead, dead wrong. Seriously dude....you have some gall to continue posting, when you've been so horribly wrong so often. Didn't you once claim to be a guy who handicapped football for a living...I hope you're not doing that anymore. Your Raiders had a better season than you have!!!!

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Allow me to direct you here:

Wow Sylvan fan was pretty venomous there. Yikes. That's his prerogative though. I recall guaranteeing the Raiders would win game number 16 against the Chiefs weeks in advance.

Edit: I just looked back and actually I don't know what he's talking about. I mentioned Don Banks predicted the Raiders would be a wild card playoff team and disagreed. I mentioned that I would be disapointed if the Raiders didn't finish ahead of the Broncos and Chiefs and I am no secret there. I mentioned at the beginning of the year that Seahawks wouldn't be good and they weren't (7-9). Said in game one that Jones would be stubborn in keeping Phillips around. Right again. Mentioned that Jake Delhomme was terrible and wouldn't help the Browns. Again that was just a few of the initial pages. If you read a lot of the NFL prognosticators you will see that even the best are wrong more than they are right as the NFL is the most difficult league in the world to handicap. Of course I was wrong on a lot of things but you could say the same for any poster in the thread that posted more than a few times. Haters gonna hate I guess.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well lack of interceptions was one of the reasons his contract was voided so obviously weight is put into that isn't it? He's one of the best corners in the league but he does get beat when thrown to at times. There's no guarantee he would be dominant playing in a heavy zone scheme. He's really suited for the Raider's man to man scheme and no team plays as much man coverage as the Raiders.

The Jets and Raiders play man to man more than anybody, you think it might have something to do with Revis and Asomugha?

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Wow Sylvan fan was pretty venomous there. Yikes. That's his prerogative though. I recall guaranteeing the Raiders would win game number 16 against the Chiefs weeks in advance.

Edit: I just looked back and actually I don't know what he's talking about. I mentioned Don Banks predicted the Raiders would be a wild card playoff team and disagreed. I mentioned that I would be disapointed if the Raiders didn't finish ahead of the Broncos and Chiefs and I am no secret there. I mentioned at the beginning of the year that Seahawks wouldn't be good and they weren't (7-9). Said in game one that Jones would be stubborn in keeping Phillips around. Right again. Mentioned that Jake Delhomme was terrible and wouldn't help the Browns. Again that was just a few of the initial pages. If you read a lot of the NFL prognosticators you will see that even the best are wrong more than they are right as the NFL is the most difficult league in the world to handicap. Of course I was wrong on a lot of things but you could say the same for any poster in the thread that posted more than a few times. Haters gonna hate I guess.

Not going to wade into this argument as I think it's silly. But, I think everyone predicted that one...

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sowa

The Jets and Raiders play man to man more than anybody, you think it might have something to do with Revis and Asomugha?

There were the talks in the offseason about the Raiders/Jets and Aso so the Jets would make some sense especially if he views winning ahead of money and he is a class act so I could see him going to a place where he could win. I could also see him staying with the team that has treated him very well and paid him more than any CB has ever made. How long is Cromarti under contract for?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sowa

Not going to wade into this argument as I think it's silly. But, I think everyone predicted that one...

I think that comment was in response to how Mangini was kind of set up to fail by his GM for providing Delhomme as his starting QB.

Sylvanfan is a Chiefs fan and I hate the Chiefs so obviously he's going to differ with my opinions. I was wrong about Cassel though and I admit that. He had a good season but to me he's a guy that is only effective when the running game is working so he's never going to be an elite guy.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

There were the talks in the offseason about the Raiders/Jets and Aso so the Jets would make some sense especially if he views winning ahead of money and he is a class act so I could see him going to a place where he could win. I could also see him staying with the team that has treated him very well and paid him more than any CB has ever made. How long is Cromarti under contract for?

He's a free agent after this year.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Sowa

He's a free agent after this year.

I could definitely see the Jets making a big run for Aso. That would suck as I really hate the Jets but it's the reality of the NFL that you can only keep a team together for so long.

[Displaced Flames fan]

HOF finalists announced:

» Jerome Bettis, RB (1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers)
» Tim Brown, WR/KR (1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers)
» Cris Carter, WR (1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins)
» Dermontti Dawson, C (1988-2000 Pittsburgh Steelers)
» Richard Dent, DE (1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles)
» Chris Doleman, DE/LB (1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-95 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-98 San Francisco 49ers)
» Marshall Faulk, RB (1994-98 Indianapolis Colts, 1999-2005 St. Louis Rams)
» Charles Haley, DE/LB (1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys)
» *Chris Hanburger, LB (1965-78 Washington Redskins)
» Cortez Kennedy, DT (1990-2000 Seattle Seahawks)
» Curtis Martin, RB (1995-97 New England Patriots, 1998-2005 New York Jets)
» Andre Reed, WR (1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins)
» *Les Richter, LB (1954-62 Los Angeles Rams)
» Willie Roaf, OT (1993-2001 New Orleans Saints, 2002-05 Kansas City Chiefs)
» Ed Sabol, Contributor (1964-1995 NFL Films)
» Deion Sanders, CB/KR/PR (1989-1993 Atlanta Falcons, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-99 Dallas Cowboys, 2000 Washington Redskins, 2004-05 Baltimore Ravens)
» Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens)

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I'm going to say Sanders, Carter, Roaf, Haley, Sharpe, and Faulk get in for sure.

[Pagal4321]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

HOF finalists announced:
» Ed Sabol, Contributor (1964-1995 NFL Films)

He better get inducted this year. His contribution to the game can't be measured with passing yards or interceptions but it's changed the way the game has been viewed from a fan perspective.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

He better get inducted this year. His contribution to the game can't be measured with passing yards or interceptions but it's changed the way the game has been viewed from a fan perspective.

That's why I think they need a separate entrance category for "builders of the game", or whatever you wanna call the category for people who didn't play. Because guys like Sabel are never gonna get the votes vs. guys like Deion, Bettis, Faulk, etc. They just aren't.