[GT] US election - It's 2020, what could possibly go wrong?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

By state law yes. That law would be instantly challenged in court tho. Like my last post Arizona won a court case just in July to uphold their's.

Well, I think we all know where that would end up.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This is absolutely crucial information.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1324578133979340800

So probably not much more to come in from that. Provisional ballots (haven't seen a statewide count, but Fulton and DeKalb alone had 5.5K apparently) and rejected absentee ballots (about 2K) will likely be a bigger factor.

[MarchHare]

As of this writing, Trump's lead over Biden in Georgia is only 1,805 votes. Per the CDC, there have been 8,305 COVID-19 deaths in Georgia. In the interest of science, I created a spreadsheet to quantify whether or not Trump's mismanagement and downplaying of the "Democrat hoax China flu" might have cost him Georgia's 16 electoral votes.

First, I looked up the number of COVID-19 deaths in Georgia by county. Then I looked at both Biden's and Trump's current vote share in each Georgia county. Applying the vote percentages to the deaths, I can estimate how many potential votes Biden and Trump each lost because their supporters died from COVID-19 before the election. My findings are as follows:

Trump voter deaths: 4317
Biden voter deaths: 3941
Third-party voter deaths: 96

As a result of this, Trump missed out on netting an additional +375 votes over Biden because those supporters are dead. However, there are a few flawed assumptions here. First, I'm assuming that everyone who died of COVID is eligible to vote and would have indeed cast a ballot. Second, it's probably the case that COVID is disproportionately killing Trump supporters even in deep blue counties because they are more likely to not wear a mask and flaunt social distancing guidelines. I'm unsure how much of a modifier I should add to the death counts to reflect this. Any suggestions?

[direwolf]

WTF is going on in Nevada? Seems like they've been stuck at 89% all night.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by direwolf

WTF is going on in Nevada? Seems like they've been stuck at 89% all night.

I believe they already said they wouldn't release any more results until the morning.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I believe they already said they wouldn't release any more results until the morning.

Ah, ok. Gotcha. I must have missed that earlier.

[woob]

You're doing good work, MarchHare. LOL.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I believe they already said they wouldn't release any more results until the morning.

Which is pretty stupid. Like, who are these people and what more important things do they have to do (including sleep) other than take out the biggest threat to the United States as quickly as possible.

Not a chance I’m rolling off to bed if I have the opportunity to (as quick as possible) dispose of Trump.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Is their any guarantee that they would enforce the law? Serious question, because I don't know. If it is a state law, could a governor just pardon them immediately after?

I know it would probably be political suicide in a democracy, but if it gets to that point, democratic norms will kind of be out the window anyway.

Yes, They do get enforced .

Those in Washington in 2016 where fined, Colorado in 2016 removed a few.

It's not the Parties that Chooses the Electoral Voters It's the States government themselves.

Bill Clinton was an Electoral voter in 2016 for New York he would of had to cast for Trump if Donald Trump won Ny

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

As of this writing, Trump's lead over Biden in Georgia is only 1,805 votes. Per the CDC, there have been 8,305 COVID-19 deaths in Georgia. In the interest of science, I created a spreadsheet to quantify whether or not Trump's mismanagement and downplaying of the "Democrat hoax China flu" might have cost him Georgia's 16 electoral votes.

First, I looked up the number of COVID-19 deaths in Georgia by county. Then I looked at both Biden's and Trump's current vote share in each Georgia county. Applying the vote percentages to the deaths, I can estimate how many potential votes Biden and Trump each lost because their supporters died from COVID-19 before the election. My findings are as follows:

Trump voter deaths: 4317
Biden voter deaths: 3941
Third-party voter deaths: 96

As a result of this, Trump missed out on netting an additional +375 votes over Biden because those supporters are dead. However, there are a few flawed assumptions here. First, I'm assuming that everyone who died of COVID is eligible to vote and would have indeed cast a ballot. Second, it's probably the case that COVID is disproportionately killing Trump supporters even in deep blue counties because they are more likely to not wear a mask and flaunt social distancing guidelines. I'm unsure how much of a modifier I should add to the death counts to reflect this. Any suggestions?

No idea, but I applaud your approach and effort!

[doozwimp]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

As of this writing, Trump's lead over Biden in Georgia is only 1,805 votes. Per the CDC, there have been 8,305 COVID-19 deaths in Georgia. In the interest of science, I created a spreadsheet to quantify whether or not Trump's mismanagement and downplaying of the "Democrat hoax China flu" might have cost him Georgia's 16 electoral votes.

First, I looked up the number of COVID-19 deaths in Georgia by county. Then I looked at both Biden's and Trump's current vote share in each Georgia county. Applying the vote percentages to the deaths, I can estimate how many potential votes Biden and Trump each lost because their supporters died from COVID-19 before the election. My findings are as follows:

Trump voter deaths: 4317
Biden voter deaths: 3941
Third-party voter deaths: 96

As a result of this, Trump missed out on netting an additional +375 votes over Biden because those supporters are dead. However, there are a few flawed assumptions here. First, I'm assuming that everyone who died of COVID is eligible to vote and would have indeed cast a ballot. Second, it's probably the case that COVID is disproportionately killing Trump supporters even in deep blue counties because they are more likely to not wear a mask and flaunt social distancing guidelines. I'm unsure how much of a modifier I should add to the death counts to reflect this. Any suggestions?

Sad that it may have taken a literal plague to save democracy. Probably impossible to quantify, but it is my feeling that Covid signifigantly impacted this election cycle in the democrats favour. Sux.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Bill Clinton was an Electoral voter in 2016 for New York he had to cast his vote for Donald Trump.

But Hillary won New York? Why would Bill (or any New York elector) have to cast a vote for Trump?

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Which is pretty stupid. Like, who are these people and what more important things do they have to do (including sleep) other than take out the biggest threat to the United States as quickly as possible.

Not a chance I’m rolling off to bed if I have the opportunity to (as quick as possible) dispose of Trump.

Alot of it like last night is to avoid a trump followers roit outside the poll counting building. That's why they stopped last night .

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Biden picked up a few more votes in Arizona. Better than nothing, let's run the clock out.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

As of this writing, Trump's lead over Biden in Georgia is only 1,805 votes. Per the CDC, there have been 8,305 COVID-19 deaths in Georgia. In the interest of science, I created a spreadsheet to quantify whether or not Trump's mismanagement and downplaying of the "Democrat hoax China flu" might have cost him Georgia's 16 electoral votes.

First, I looked up the number of COVID-19 deaths in Georgia by county. Then I looked at both Biden's and Trump's current vote share in each Georgia county. Applying the vote percentages to the deaths, I can estimate how many potential votes Biden and Trump each lost because their supporters died from COVID-19 before the election. My findings are as follows:

Trump voter deaths: 4317
Biden voter deaths: 3941
Third-party voter deaths: 96

As a result of this, Trump missed out on netting an additional +375 votes over Biden because those supporters are dead. However, there are a few flawed assumptions here. First, I'm assuming that everyone who died of COVID is eligible to vote and would have indeed cast a ballot. Second, it's probably the case that COVID is disproportionately killing Trump supporters even in deep blue counties because they are more likely to not wear a mask and flaunt social distancing guidelines. I'm unsure how much of a modifier I should add to the death counts to reflect this. Any suggestions?

Probably don’t relate dead people to votes would be my suggestion.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

But Hillary won New York? Why would Bill (or any New York elector) have to cast a vote for Trump?

Typed wrong , Beer...

If Hillary had lost he would have been forced . Sorry .

[rubecube]

Lol, Fox News is hilarious.

"Now here are 3 white people and an Asian dude to discuss anti-black racism.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Typed wrong , Beer...

If Hillary had lost he would have been forced . Sorry .

No he wouldn't. If Trump had won New York the Republican electors would've done the voting.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Yes, They do get enforced .

Those in Washington in 2016 where fined, Colorado in 2016 removed a few.

It's not the Parties that Chooses the Electoral Voters It's the States government themselves.

Bill Clinton was an Electoral voter in 2016 for New York he had to cast his vote for Donald Trump.

I guess the whole idea confuses me. Why even have multiple people, or people at all being part of the process... they might as well just assign the votes by default. Is it just some kind of vestigial tradition?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

But Hillary won New York? Why would Bill (or any New York elector) have to cast a vote for Trump?

So many jokes here...so many