The ongoing X and Elon Musk Transgressions Thread

[PepsiFree]

Yes, for Threads to be good it must simply provide access to all of Twitter, therefore becoming Twitter without needing to click on Twitter.

Easy.

[marsplasticeraser]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yes, for Threads to be good it must simply provide access to all of Twitter, therefore becoming Twitter without needing to click on Twitter.

Easy.

Not exactly, I think Threads is aiming to be like Twitter was 12 months ago, not the current version. It's not too hard, basically ensure a stable product, have real 'verified' users, most popular comments go to the top, and remove/reduce the non-followed posts that make it into a users feed.

It's kind of crazy that Twitter could succeed if they just reversed everything they've done in the past 12 months!

I'm not saying Elon is doing this on purpose, but I can't think of any product that managed to destroy their core features as completely and quickly as what twitter has done.

Has there been any win for Twitter under Elon? Maybe Bots, but I don't even go on it anymore.

[Sr. Mints]

The half dozen or so times i've opened threads since yesterday, I don't think I've seen a single post from someone I actually follow. Big brands clog up my feed, celebrities, and local personalities. I frankly don't give a #### at all about any of that, and it's started to grate on me in a hurry.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Threads is objectively bad. It may not die because Meta is willing to throw cash at it but it is in no way a Twitter killer. Best case scenario it’s a minor thorn and quasi competitor. It cannot replace Twitter for breaking news which is kind of what most of the non terminally online world uses Twitter for. Your feed is more people you don’t follow Than anything else, you can’t search for content, and if you scroll by something it’s gone.

I’m terribly sorry to say this but it blows huge donkey #### and is a waste of everyone’s time.

Exactly.

And it is perfectly possible to use Twitter in such a way that you can avoid all the toxic BS. As an example I like Twitter for sports stuff, especially Flames content. It allows me to keep up to date on current events with the team, follow different reporters, etc, etc. I can do all that without noticing any toxic stupidity, and I feel Twitter drives traffic to their sites which is a benefit as well.

There is no way in hell I am associating my Facebook / Instagram account with Threads.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Azure

Exactly.

And it is perfectly possible to use Twitter in such a way that you can avoid all the toxic BS. As an example I like Twitter for sports stuff, especially Flames content. It allows me to keep up to date on current events with the team, follow different reporters, etc, etc. I can do all that without noticing any toxic stupidity, and I feel Twitter drives traffic to their sites which is a benefit as well.

There is no way in hell I am associating my Facebook / Instagram account with Threads.

That's all true, but it will all depend on the content posters, and the consumers will go where they are. Twitter has pissed off a lot of their biggest content providers, so it will be interesting to see if they leaver over time or not.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

That's all true, but it will all depend on the content posters, and the consumers will go where they are. Twitter has pissed off a lot of their biggest content providers, so it will be interesting to see if they leaver over time or not.

It will in part depend upon the content on the platform, and in part depend upon how the feed is set up to deliver that content. As is, the feed seems to be set up for pushing content from brands and influencers rather than allowing users to control their own feed to define their own experience according to the information they want. So, as it is now, even if all the content creators moved to threads it would still be a bad experience.

[photon]

Musk's pet lawyer sends a letter to Meta telling it to stop being mean using any Twitter trade secrets or other highly confidential information

https://cdn.sanity.io/files/ifn0l6bs...c3b46632cd.pdf

Also complains that they hired ex-Twitter employees and put them to work on Threads. Well, duh.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Threads is only bad because of the foolishness of its design. It’s not like Twitter is some shining beacon of hope on planet earth, it’s a cesspool filled with scumbags and racists but it also has funny people and a good UI (at least when Elon isn’t screwing it up with his ineptitude)

Threads just blows. I don’t know anything about a mass exodus from Twitter, if it takes off with anyone it’ll be the old dads and wine moms that already live on Instagram who will follow it out of brand loyalty. There’s a lot of “I don’t know anyone who voted for Nixon” in here. Our little worlds are not the greater user base.

They have the said the 'only who you follow' feed is on the list. Hopefully they bring that. The problem now is the people who use social media for a living are just throwing up a billion threads so they get on your timeline. I'm sure it will get better and you won't see every Garry Vee post on your timeline soon.

Originally Posted by Azure

Exactly.

And it is perfectly possible to use Twitter in such a way that you can avoid all the toxic BS. As an example I like Twitter for sports stuff, especially Flames content. It allows me to keep up to date on current events with the team, follow different reporters, etc, etc. I can do all that without noticing any toxic stupidity, and I feel Twitter drives traffic to their sites which is a benefit as well.

There is no way in hell I am associating my Facebook / Instagram account with Threads.

Twitter does all that, but as soon as you click on a tweet, you have to read all the blue check guys - who basically fit into a few categories:
1) Zamler-esque Musk bootlicker
2) Person who wants to be a social media influencer but who is bad at it so they spend money to try to get followers
3) Right-wing/free speech lunatic.
4) Crypto/AI/porn scammer
5) Likely bot right or left wing rage baiters

If I came to CalgaryPuck and every reply was some Yoho like poster - I'd just stop posting.

[Azure]

I don't have those issues. I don't follow people I don't want to follow, and I don't care if they have a blue check or not.

Darren Hayes has a blue check & C of Red Central does not. I like both equally.

In fact most of the people I follow I have no issues with.

I think most of the toxic Twitter garbage is related to politics, and in case you didn't know, you'll find the same stuff on most political sites if there is no heavy handed moderation.

[PeteMoss]

Most likely scenario for Threads is it will follow the same path as listed in this article:
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/p...n-ai/#hey-guys

Right now its all about getting users (which is succeeded in doing). Then it will build out better features so people use it a bunch.

Then they will start to be all about brands to generate advertising partnerships. Then it will devolve into the same nonsense that Facebook/Instagram/Amazon and basically every app where they start to suck because they devolve into getting you to watch dopey ads and get angry at them.

[GordonBlue]

Elon Musk’s Twitter Threatens to Sue Meta Over Threads, Alleging Meta Hired ‘Dozens’ of Twitter Employees to Launch Copycat App; Meta Disputes Claim

https://variety.com/2023/digital/new...ds-1235663115/

In a July 5 cease-and-desist letter addressed to Meta CEO Zuckerberg, a lawyer representing Twitter said that Musk’s company had “serious concerns” that Meta “has engaged in systematic, willful and unlawful misappropriation of Twitter’s trade secrets and other intellectual property.” The letter said that “Twitter intends to strictly enforce its intellectual property rights, and demands that Meta take immediate steps to stop using any Twitter trade secrets or other highly confidential information.”

[afc wimbledon]

Whilst you may not like Threads now most people will accept it as they are sick of both Musk and Twitter and it will do what every program does, change and improve to meet user needs, it will kill Twitter so get used to it

[Yoho]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1676829267064422400

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Azure

I don't have those issues. I don't follow people I don't want to follow, and I don't care if they have a blue check or not.

Darren Hayes has a blue check & C of Red Central does not. I like both equally.

In fact most of the people I follow I have no issues with.

I think most of the toxic Twitter garbage is related to politics, and in case you didn't know, you'll find the same stuff on most political sites if there is no heavy handed moderation.

Here is a CBC tweet that says 'Man, its a hot one' and links to an article. https://twitter.com/CBCNews/status/1677017480235999245

Not the world's spiciest tweet.

Verified Responses at the top - climate change denialists, someone talking about vaccines for climate change (some kind of bad joke), people complaining about an article about it being hot in the summer.

Its just an awful experience if you click anything.

[BlackArcher101]

All of twitter is really just the comments section of a news article now.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

All of twitter is really just the comments section of a news article now.

The replies on that tweet were going to be bad no matter what - but the paid guys can tweet nonsense and end up at the top of list. At least let good bad posts go to the top.

[Ozy_Flame]

I love watching all the right-wing doormats stretch their peanut brains to defend the hate-filled neo-libertarian soapbox their billionaire bonehead created.

I also love watching other platforms take up the mantle (and the market share) while Elron wastes time not paying his bills and preparing for a fight at the Colosseum against Zuck.

[Slava]

Basically, if Threads just makes your feed chronological and only from people you follow it'll be great. No idea if they do that, but they really should.

I think this is a massive problem for Twitter. They've killed a lot of goodwill they had, and that's not easy to reinstill. I think a lot of people are sticking with both for the time being, but we're also a day in and it's a huge uptake as far as I can see.

[photon]

30 million by noon yesterday is the number that was being thrown around.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Sr. Mints

The half dozen or so times i've opened threads since yesterday, I don't think I've seen a single post from someone I actually follow. Big brands clog up my feed, celebrities, and local personalities. I frankly don't give a #### at all about any of that, and it's started to grate on me in a hurry.

Kind of like Facebook and Instagram